Not a racing fan but nice to see great leg from forza. Disappointing UC number.

But isn't it the same situation as Forza then? People are saying it flopped yet it has great legs. First thing somebody will pop in and say is bundles. Is Forza selling those consoles or is the console selling Forza?

Yes, it's just as stupid. People will say that Halo did so well because it was bundled, but the only reason they bought the Halo bundle is because they wanted Halo. It's as much a sale of the game as it is a sale of the console. in fact I'd say it's more significant a sale of the game because people actually bought the console to go with it. The argument changes when a game is given away for free, such as TLOUR or Titanfall. Then you can't really see that as a sale of the game because, let's face it, even if the free game was only Tony Hawkes people would choose that option over a console without a game at all. The argument also changes when a bundle comes with multiple games added. If Sony added The Nathan Drake Collection to the TLOUR bundle then you'd have to accept it's likely that people bought the bundle for TLOUR more than Nathan Drake. Not in every case but at least there's a debate to be had.

I thought Nathan Drake Collection was being given away for free too. Or is that not the case for UK?

11/09 to 12/10 sounds like a month to me. What are you talking about?

Ah, now we're entering a different debate that I've touched upon in other threads. Are they giving the game away or are they changing $50 for it because the price drop is actually $100. Let's save this example for another time.

Then why would it be the same price as TLOU bundle? Which has a free game. Charging 50 for that would be a ripoff. 

VGC doesn't have first week numbers for all the Halo games in the UK, but at least worldwide, each mainline xbox 360 entry in the Halo franchise has shown to have approximately the same first week numbers, regardless of installbase (Halo 3: 3.8 million, Halo Reach: 3.6 million, Halo 4: 3.6 million). From that I think we can safely assume that the Halo franchise's sales isn't tied much to the installbase at all.

Uncharted's first week sales have increased together with installbase, but it could be argued that that's because franchise growth rather than installbase. In any case, if Uncharted's sales are tied to installbase, while Halo's sales evidently aren't, that would sort of be a benefit to Uncharted, rather than Halo.

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If MCC and NDC both had launched this holiday, I don't think MCC had sold substantially more, simply because the Halo franchise has proven to be largely unnaffected by installbase. UCC may or may not have sold less had it launched last holiday, however I doubt it.

Either way, they both had similar ratios compared to their respective series, so I would say both performed basically equally well.

Maybe. But Halo and FPS is bigger in UK. What do you expect? 2 Days of UCC suddenly tops Halp MCC's sales of 5 days and during November. Lol

Well if install bases don't change much it makes me think these percentages they've been throwing don't have a lot of purpose. The whole "80% of players haven't played Uncharted" seems more of an excuse to make it than a reason.