You can take out two paddles and leave two in where you don't rest your fingers. 

PS4 has this month.It's not even a doubt anymore.Tons of X1s are just sitting on store shelves.

I know rite? I went to my local best buy and there were over 1000 xboxs 1s on the shelves i counted them all. Wanna see the sticky i used to talley them up for evidentzzz?

It seems people didn´t learn their lessons with September NPD result. Next month will be a blood bath when Amazon charts fails again to predict the whole market behaevour.

Unless you are a hardcore Halo fan the Halo EE is not a good value. It´s surprising it´s so high everywhere, specially after the deals.

It's not that clean cut and anecdotal evidence tells us nothing. It could simply be that MS have put out far more stock because of Halo. It's going to be close until the very end of the month and then we have to consider pre-orders of the Halo Bundle. The PS4 had a comfortable lead over the XB1 in the monthly charts but the bundle that lead is now the bundle that's out of stock. The bundle that currently leads (Uncharted bundle) is behind the XB1 and so any sales of that bundle will only close the gap and with the gap at the top being so small I highly doubt by any significant amount. However, the gap between the Halo bundle and the bundle that leads in the hourlies (TLOUR bundle) is huge, which could lead to the Halo bundle eventually overtaking it in the monthlies.

To sum up: Halo is going to catch up with the TLOUR bundle far quicker than the Nathan Drake bundle is going to catch up with the Halo bundle, and then we have to add in pre-orders. That's what I meant when I said Sony have given away this month. Given a consistant flow of TLOUR bundles, the PS4 would now still have two bundles in the top 20, one of which would be in the lead (and so widen the gap on the monthlies) and the other would have been just behind the XB1 doubling up on the likely possibility that the PS4 would take the month. That would have offset the preorders more significantly. Things have now changed because TLOUR bundle is out of stock.

I'm now inclined to believe the XB1 will win the month. We don't know the preorder numbers though. If they're really low then the PS4 might still stand a chance, but if they're good to excellent then I think the XB1 will win.

An install base of 20M by the end of the year seems like a bit of a reach. That's 6M+ sold from Sept-Dec, or ~1.5M+/month. Currently, 150K/wk or 600K/month is a high number (~290K in US last month). I have my doubts that sales will be 200% higher for each of those 4 months. That being said, I would not be shocked if it's around 17-18M (probably the low end) and that 3M copies of H5 are sold. From forum activity and sales figures, there is definitely traction with X1 users, and an 18% adoption rate seems very, very possible.

Now do you mean given up on the month with the amazon rankings or overall in the US? Because I don't think not having a couple of bundles stocked on amazon is gonna account for much. The white destiny bundle is available at best buy and TLOU one is in gamestop so it's not like they have shortages everywhere.

PS4 selling out could only mean one thing. It sold faster than Amazon anticipated.

Not a bad place to be!

Wow did you miss my post from before? It seems you did. Your thinking would only apply if TLoU (and Destiny) bundle situation happened at every store. But it isn't. Basing the month off of a simple stock issue at one retailer and one console doesn't make a good prediction. Yes this is a Amazon thread but you're generalising something that's not true anywhere else. Why so focused on that one console? Then you bring up the spacing in the monthly as if that means anything in regards to that bundle. A bundle where sales will be picked up elsewhere.

No disrespect to you at all. You're cool people. I just don't like when Amazon is used the wrong way to predict NPD and then everyone gets disappointed when NPD result don't turn out the way they expected then blame Amazon and claim it's useless and shouldn't be used.

I doubt its more stock since its the same skus sitting that have been there since the summer and I alredy explained about the pe orders.If they were so high then the bundle would already be out of stock since it is limited.Every month I have seen less PS4s in the store than Xboxs the PS4 sold more including the summer and last month so why would it be any different just because of one bundle?The Halo 5 bundle will probabbly only account for 5-10% of the Xboxs sales this month at most,which means all the other skus would have to sell and they have not seen a boost on amazon or in store.You keep missing the point that the PS4 skus have already sold and there are 3 different skus both in store and online,while the Xbox only has one sku.The Halo bundle is not unlimited and you are not realizing that fact.If all the other skus are not higher than how would the Xbox possibly sell more?