How it compares to NVIDIA Tegra X1?
| spemanig said: The NXDS won't be that powerful if it means Nintendo would have to ditch their dual screen to do it. I think the NXDS will be plenty powerful, still have dual screens, still have the clamshell, still have the 3D, and have the top screen have a clean 720p resolution to boot. All for $200-$250. But I've already made an entire prediction thread about it. But a tablet handheld successor to the 3DS is 100% never happening. |
I know you really want the dual-screen setup, but it doesn't make a tonne of sense these days. Back when touch screen was new and a novelty it made sense to have a seperate screen below that was touch and a better screen above for the main game action. But these days large touch screens are possible and common, and a the look of an iPad is considered much more cool to kids than that of a DS.
And Nintendo has already switched to a single screen setup with the 2DS, they just sperate it with a plastic bar. I expect the next handheld to be tablet styled, with a large single screen and physical controls. The screen will be large enough to simulate two DS screens if needed for older titles.

Pemalite said:
There is more to performance than floating point arithmatic. Keep in mind that Mobile GPU's tend to render games differently than console or PC GPU's, they tend to go with tiled-based approaches due to their efficiency and power consumption edge. |
Yeah, aware of that - can't wait to see A9X vs Tegra X1, given how different their architectures are, so extrapolation might be somewhat easier.
Oh, and glad to see you again, it's been a while since I saw you posting.
| jonathanalis said: How it compares to NVIDIA Tegra X1? |
My guess is that they will probably trade blows, A9X will most likely be faster in T-Rex and Manhattan, and Tegra X1 in 3DMark.
TheLastStarFighter said:
I know you really want the dual-screen setup, but it doesn't make a tonne of sense these days. Back when touch screen was new and a novelty it made sense to have a seperate screen below that was touch and a better screen above for the main game action. But these days large touch screens are possible and common, and a the look of an iPad is considered much more cool to kids than that of a DS. And Nintendo has already switched to a single screen setup with the 2DS, they just sperate it with a plastic bar. I expect the next handheld to be tablet styled, with a large single screen and physical controls. The screen will be large enough to simulate two DS screens if needed for older titles. |
Id bet in a single screen that can be moved in the vertical position for simulating 2 screens, like 2DS. And also can be used as gimmick for new games, where changing the position of the screen could be used as gameplay mechanic.
In a even bolder assumption (but not likely), the freedom of screen position could lead to a screen that can be separated from the buttons and handheld plastic, and it could act like a tablet for playing mobile games(given that ninty is also making mobile games)
HoloDust said:
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So for gaming performance on real games, X1 is better then A9x ?

| TheLastStarFighter said: I know you really want the dual-screen setup, but it doesn't make a tonne of sense these days. Back when touch screen was new and a novelty it made sense to have a seperate screen below that was touch and a better screen above for the main game action. But these days large touch screens are possible and common, and a the look of an iPad is considered much more cool to kids than that of a DS. And Nintendo has already switched to a single screen setup with the 2DS, they just sperate it with a plastic bar. I expect the next handheld to be tablet styled, with a large single screen and physical controls. The screen will be large enough to simulate two DS screens if needed for older titles. |
They switched to the 2DS, before switching back to the N3DS, which was vastly more successful. The 2DS was nothing more than a budget 2DS, like the iPhone 5C that never stuck.
It has nothing to do with me wanting the DS set up. I absolutely had Amiibo and what it does to complete games, but I'm not letting that hamper my reality that Amiibo will be the crux of physical media for the NX. I know the NXDS will have dual screens because it's literally the only possible way the unified platform, as Nintendo described it, is happening. Just like I said the gamepad was staying, back when everyone thought it was being dropped. Guess what? Two patents already confirmed me right.
Yet they're dropping the second screen on the line of hardware with exponencially more success with a second screen, and by doing so will completely destroy the cross compatability a unified platform is meant to provide since the NX will still have it and obviously still use it "because kids today like the shape of tablets?" The kind of aesthetic Nintendo literally are quoted as being the reason the Wii U's gamepad was so confusing and undesirable? Give me a massive break.
No, a tablet handheld definitely isn't happening.
spemanig said:
It has nothing to do with me wanting the DS set up. I absolutely had Amiibo and what it does to complete games, but I'm not letting that hamper my reality that Amiibo will be the crux of physical media for the NX. I know the NXDS will have dual screens because it's literally the only possible way the unified platform, as Nintendo described it, is happening. Just like I said the gamepad was staying, back when everyone thought it was being dropped. Guess what? Two patents already confirmed me right. Yet they're dropping the second screen on the line of hardware with exponencially more success with a second screen, and by doing so will completely destroy the cross compatability a unified platform is meant to provide since the NX will still have it and obviously still use it "because kids today like the shape of tablets?" The kind of aesthetic Nintendo literally are quoted as being the reason the Wii U's gamepad was so confusing and undesirable? Give me a massive break. No, a tablet handheld definitely isn't happening. |
I think we are exiting an era of Nintendo.
1983-1995 - NES/SNES Era, Initial Nintendo boom, rise as internationl brand
1996-2003 - N64/GCN era, end of Yamauchi's presidency, birth of Pokemon craze
2004 - 2015 - Wii/DS casual gaming boom and then bust era, Mr. Iwata RIP
2016 - New Era Begins; Smartphone apps, NX, Theme Parks, Movies, Quality of Life, etc. etc.
I think Nintendo will be very different in the coming years. You can already see they are changing their position on smartphone games which is a radical change, the merging of their console and handheld teams (EAD is no longer EAD technically, etc.), willingness now to make movies and theme park licensing after shooting down those ideas for years, etc etc. Obviously they are willing to do things today that they wouldn't even 5-6 years ago.
NX will be different too, I don't think it's just going to be "basically the same thing as the last 12 years, just tweaked a little". I personally just don't see it, they're making some radical changes and I think that will reflect in NX also. I don't know if that's good or bad but we will find out soon.
I do think the Nikkei report on NX supporting Android apps in some way is more or less correct though. They are spot on with their Nintendo reporting. That's going to be one of many changes.
I don't know if NX (portable?) will be a tablet, but I don't think it'll be basically just a DS/3DS with better graphics either. I think that era has ended within Nintendo. Personally my guess is "NX" is a multitude of devices, it's not just one thing, it's not even two things and I also think the traditional upgrade cycle of hardware is going to end with NX as well.
It may outperformer the wii U but will it's games actually look Wii U or even PS3 good. I don't think so :).
HoloDust said:
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ESRAM will always be a major bottleneck no matter what. It is only 32MB, and a 1080p buffer takes double that space to have any amount of detail on screen.
But again: 8.000 GB vs 0.032 GB. Yeah I know which one matters more.
Prediction for console Lifetime sales:
Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million
[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]
3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m
I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.
[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]