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Neodegenerate said:
UltimateGamerConsole said:

The core market wouldn''t buy the bolded or some other games either with such a huge lineup. Time and money are an issue for many.


You are basing that on the idea that a "core market" consumer also plays all of those genres.  By definition I am a "core market" gamer, I own all consoles this gen, I participate in an online gaming forum.  In that list I see 2 games I am buying at launch (Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank), 2 I will keep an eye on (Horizon and NiOh), and 7 games that don't interest me enough to warrant a purchase.  Your personal list might have the same numbers but completely different games.  The diversity is what is going to continue to expand the userbase.

You're right, I'm buying TLG, Uncharted 4, Horizon, No Man's Sky, Gravity Rush Remaster and Gravity Rush 2 and GT 7 if it releases next year. Not interested in the rest. But some people might be interested in a few of them but do not have the money to buy all games they are interested in, so will skip on some games. That is what will lead to lost sales.



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Zoombael said:

theprof00 said:

It's not the greatest list

speak for yourself please.

in my eyes this list of coming 2016 games tops the line up of the whole PS3 era.

Comparing to any ps3 year is easy mode.

Try comparing to ps2's third year. 
It's really incomparable.

Check out this 2004 lineup:
Mafia
R-Type
Romance of the three kingdoms
drakengard
FF11
front mission 4
vietiful joe
Sly Cooper 2
Katamari Damacy (game of the century lol)
SMT: Nocturne
Ace Combat 5
GTA: San Andreas
Killzone
R&C:Up your arsenal
Jak 3
Need for Speed Underground
DBZ: Budokai
MGS: Snake Eater



theprof00 said:

ehh, the problem is, you're attributing "flop"(ing) with releasing too many in the same year.
In reality, the problem is that while those games carry a certain weight of being big releases,
Motorstorm was not a poular franchise, similarly to lbp, and resistance...who's popularity in sales generally came from being early release titles for the platform and were generally not "great" games. 

Killzone 3 ran into the problem of not being as good as 2, similarly with uncharted, though uncharted 3 sold well.

Not to be disparaging, but I think you're overthinking it.

TBH, the only games in 2016 that will sell really well are uncharted 4, GT (if released), and maybe last guardian.
Don't expect too much from the other games. R&C might see a resurgence from the lapse between titles, but R&C has never been a huge seller.
SF is a game in a declining genre. Gravity Rush.... maybe 2m if it's lucky. Last Guardian is a complete toss up. It could sell 4m, or could be another Order1886.

Playstation titles don't tend to be blockbusters. They sell relatively well, but they've never been really solid.
However, third party (historically sony exclusives) like ff15 will crush. Just like mgs5 will do this year.

MotorStorm was big before Apocalypse, LBP 2 didn't flop and Resistance 3 was the best game in the franchise and easily one of the best shooters of last-gen, but it still flopped. Infamous 2 also flopped badly and was a huge decline over Infamous.

Killzone 3 while not up there with 2 still sold well and Uncharte 3 was a huge success and eclipsed Resistance 3, exactly what my point of "overlooking one big game over another" is.

As for 2016, I do think that No Man's Sky, Horizon and SF V will sell very well too, and eclipse games released around them unless those games are Uncharted 4 and GT 7. The rest will be no match in terms of hype, and will indeed be overlooked if released close to the others.



d21lewis said:
The list looks good. Should have "something for everyone" and not "everything for someone".

I'll buy a few and I'll skip a few. My list won't look like anybody else's. That's how it's supposed to be.


THIS.



UltimateGamerConsole said:

PS4 is stuffed with exclusives in 2016, both large and small. So with so much of exclusive content and multiplatform games coming out next year, I think many PS4 exclusives will be ignored by the market, like what happened to many PS3 exclusives in 2011. I really think Sony is mismanaging there games, some of those games would have been a nice fit for this year. But instead they are dumping all that content in a year. If they announce GT7 for 2016 then its going to be some serious competition between their own exclusives. I personally won't be getting many of them as I'm not interested, but even if I was interested in all of them I would still not have got many of them cause I can't afford so many games.

The PS4 exclusives I will get in 2016 are TLG, Uncharted 4, Horizon, No Man's Sky and Gravity Rush Remaster and Gravity Rush 2.

 

what you dont bear in mind. sony isnt just a publisher. they are a plattform holder. of course the goal is to sell as many games as possible. but it isnt the primary objective. the primary objective is to maximise the attach rate. and how do you do that? you have to attract the customer. how do you get the customers attention? you have to make your product distinctively different. you have to give your plattform exclusive content. sony knows how important exclusivity is. this is why the put great emphasis on it.



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Reading this reminds me of how fucked my wallet it next year...

Games I'm either sure or pretty sure I'm getting next year so far:

Uncharted 4:
R&C (Played the demo today! It's really good!)
Horizon
GT7
No Mans Sky
TLG
Dreams
GR:R
GR:2

Yikes...



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UltimateGamerConsole said:
theprof00 said:

ehh, the problem is, you're attributing "flop"(ing) with releasing too many in the same year.
In reality, the problem is that while those games carry a certain weight of being big releases,
Motorstorm was not a poular franchise, similarly to lbp, and resistance...who's popularity in sales generally came from being early release titles for the platform and were generally not "great" games. 

Killzone 3 ran into the problem of not being as good as 2, similarly with uncharted, though uncharted 3 sold well.

Not to be disparaging, but I think you're overthinking it.

TBH, the only games in 2016 that will sell really well are uncharted 4, GT (if released), and maybe last guardian.
Don't expect too much from the other games. R&C might see a resurgence from the lapse between titles, but R&C has never been a huge seller.
SF is a game in a declining genre. Gravity Rush.... maybe 2m if it's lucky. Last Guardian is a complete toss up. It could sell 4m, or could be another Order1886.

Playstation titles don't tend to be blockbusters. They sell relatively well, but they've never been really solid.
However, third party (historically sony exclusives) like ff15 will crush. Just like mgs5 will do this year.

MotorStorm was big before Apocalypse, LBP 2 didn't flop and Resistance 3 was the best game in the franchise and easily one of the best shooters of last-gen, but it still flopped. Infamous 2 also flopped badly and was a huge decline over Infamous.

Killzone 3 while not up there with 2 still sold well and Uncharte 3 was a huge success and eclipsed Resistance 3, exactly what my point of "overlooking one big game over another" is.

As for 2016, I do think that No Man's Sky, Horizon and SF V will sell very well too, and eclipse games released around them unless those games are Uncharted 4 and GT 7. The rest will be no match in terms of hype, and will indeed be overlooked if released close to the others.

I offered an explanation, if you don't want to accept it, that's fine.
In my opinion, motorstorm was big because there was nothing else.
Resistance was big because there was nothing else. I played all the resistance games. I just felt they weren't that great. Look, resistance's main competitor was halo. I don't like Halo, Im not even someone who likes xbox. But Halo was way above resistance. 
Infamous, same thing. Honestly, infamous second son is the only really engaging game in the franchise (imo), it's really well made, has a great dlc campaign, looks great, and had a lot of stuff to do. It still felt a bit repetitive with all the "shoot these cameras", "recover the x" missions, but it was eclipsed by great travel and power mechanics, and a decent storyline, as well as being a launch title.

Killzone 3 was...ok, uncharted 3 was a stellar game. Of course it would eclipse res3.

Honestly, you want to talk about killer lineups. PS4's first year was absolutely stacked, and everything saw good sales.
Like I offered in another post, ps2 in 2004 had like a dozen huge titles that all did well.

It's not about having too many games in one year. I think this year had a lot for ps4. You can't just factor in exclusives when talking about software sales, because the dilemna you're referring to is the "not enough money for everything" one.

And this year was a big one.
I bought more games this year than I have in almost any year of gaming.

tl;dr

You can't just talk about exclusives when referring to a year being "too stacked" vs any other year. You have to look at everything, because a customer isn't going to ONLY buy exclusives. They are going to buy everything that appeals to them. This year was pretty huge, when you look at the big picture.
Mgs5, bloodborne, fallout 4, persona 5, witcher 3, batman, starwars battlefront...i know i know everyone has their own taste. But dude. I'd be happy with my pick of even 4 of those games.
mgs5, bloodborne, fallout 4, persona 5...

like, wut...that's 250$ just for games. The majority of consumers only get roughly 2 (new games) per year, be it exclusive or not. 



UltimateGamerConsole said:
Dr.Vita said:

If they have a good order (every month 1-2 exclusive games) no game will flop!

I disagree. GR Remaster is lauching close to SF V which is launching close to Uncharted 4 and ditto with Ratchet & Clank. And TLG, Horizon and GT7 are likely to be all holiday games competing with each other, not to mention all these games will compete with multiplatform games as well.


But there are all different from each other. 
Street Fighter V = Beat 'em Up 
Uncharted 4 = Third Party Shooter
And so on... ^^



OP what you are forgetting is that Sony exclusive usually have longevity. They sell during a long period. Even Uncharted is not a first week crazy sales, but showed good legs. Those sony exclusives usually have good legs and can't be judge by their first week or first month numbers



No, because different demographics prefer different games.



 

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