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Will the NX launch 2016?

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bigtakilla said:
Sprash said:


This should answer your question.

Hyrule Warriors was a sipnoff and was still a bigger title.

Yeah, this is a excetpion (do you have more? just stating one seems kind of sparse for proving me wrong) pokken sounds more like a chinese rip-off on pokemon for the ouya (or whatever the name is) console in china.



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Soundwave said:
danielrdp said:


Well, there is no reason to talk about it 2.5 years before releasing. That's true. However they need to set the final specification of the console, manufacture dev kits which will be send to third party developers that will create launch games.  Are you guys seriously implying that the console is going to launch with just nintendo games? Not just that, but that Nintendo is going to use two or three big IP as launch titles.


It already has two non-Nintendo titles announced for it, in fact the only two games we know for it are Dragon Quest XI and Dragon Quest X from Square-Enix. 

I imagine dev kits are out, but this time Nintendo is putting stronger NDAs on them so developers don't leak details. 

Nintendo just approached Western third parties last E3. They would have about a year to port or develop a game. Iwata has said before that nintendo would not make the same mistakes again and release their next console without enough launch titles or with a big drought after the release. To me It seems more like a 2017 launch than 2016. 



danielrdp said:
UncleScrooge said:
My opinion: NX will release in late 2016. There is absolutely no reason to talk about a console 2.5 years before release. The things listed in the OP are not indications for a later NX launch at all.

Why was Zelda shown last year but not this year? Because it's being ported to NX.
Why was Pikmin not shown despite being "almost done"? Because it's either a last hurrah for Wii U or for NX.
Shin Megami X Fire Emblem was supposed to launch way earlier but the developers struggled with the concept of the game. That does not point to a 2017 NX launch. It just means they struggled to get the game out faster.
Why didn't we see Retro's new game after 3 years? Because Nintendo approached them to redo it for NX.

In late 2016 the Wii U will be 4 years old. That's exactly how long the first Xbox was on the market when the Xbox360 reelased. The DS released 4 years after the GBA, too. This is not "pulling a SEGA" or "alienating the fanbase", otherwise the Xbox360 would have bombed hard and the DS wouldn't have become the best selling handheld of all time.


Well, there is no reason to talk about it 2.5 years before releasing. That's true. However they need to set the final specification of the console, manufacture dev kits which will be send to third party developers that will create launch games.  Are you guys seriously implying that the console is going to launch with just nintendo games? Not just that, but that Nintendo is going to use two or three big IP as launch titles.


Theres a reason. They said they would make phone games.

The reason is for people not thinking ninty was abandoning hardware.



Soundwave said:
Justagamer said:
I just don't see nintendo unveiling and releasing the nx in the same year. No way. No one has done that. Especially nintendo.nx 2017. Guarantee it.


PS4, XBox One, XBox 360 ring a bell? It would be more like Nintendo just stepping back into line with everyone else. The 3DS was also announced, shown, and released within 12 months. 

Announcing a product and then telling consumers "have fun waiting 2 years for this" is a very outdated concept. 


It wasn't officially revealed though, it was leaked from an investers meeting.



Sprash said:
bigtakilla said:
Sprash said:


This should answer your question.

Hyrule Warriors was a sipnoff and was still a bigger title.

Yeah, this is a excetpion (do you have more? just stating one seems kind of sparse for proving me wrong) pokken sounds more like a chinese rip-off on pokemon for the ouya (or whatever the name is) console in china.


Ummmmm.... Pokken, it's a spin off title that many people are excited about. Or what about Mario Kart. It's a spin off series that's been around since the SNES. Or what about Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem. Spin off title.



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What chance realistically would a "NX console" have launching in 2017 anyway?

That's FOUR YEARS after the PS4/XB1, they will have combined user bases approaching 90 million by then and no one is going to want to a 4-years too late console in that regard. 

In that case, Nintendo may just be better off making the home version more like a "dock/companion" to the portable, sort of like an accessorie than anything major, because no one but Nintendo fans who must play games on their TV (which is only about 20% of the people who buy Nintendo hardware) are going to buy it.

At least fall 2016 is still kinda in the mid-cycle of the current gen, but 2017 is getting way too late, talk will turn to the XBox/PS4 successors not long after that, so no one is going to see the NX as being "new", and PS4/XB1 will have a library of hundreds of titles compared to the NX which will start at maybe like 12-15 games at best.

NX should also launch when ever Dragon Quest XI launches, letting Sony have an exclusivity period over DQXI just because you didn't want to release your hardware a little earlier is monumentally stupid, it would give Sony good momentum and brandshare in Japan, while you'll just be getting a late port of the game. So if that game is coming in 2016, the NX should be ready for 2016.

But hey, you'll get your extra year of Wii U "support" (most likely 90% of which are outsourced games to external studios). Yippie. 



I think Wii U will get at least another announce new game (other than Pikmin 4), but doesnt mean that NX will not come in 2016. Nintendo stated that want to satisfied Wii U owners.

I say NX is coming in Q4 2016.



Soundwave said:

What chance realistically would a "NX console" have launching in 2017 anyway?

That's FOUR YEARS after the PS4/XB1, they will have combined user bases approaching 90 million by then and no one is going to want to a 4-years too late console in that regard. 

In that case, Nintendo may just be better off making the home version more like a "dock/companion" to the portable, sort of like an accessorie than anything major, because no one but Nintendo fans who must play games on their TV (which is only about 20% of the people who buy Nintendo hardware) are going to buy it.

At least fall 2016 is still kinda in the mid-cycle of the current gen, but 2017 is getting way too late, talk will turn to the XBox/PS4 successors not long after that, so no one is going to see the NX as being "new", and PS4/XB1 will have a library of hundreds of titles compared to the NX which will start at maybe like 12-15 games at best.

NX should also launch when ever Dragon Quest XI launches, letting Sony have an exclusivity period over DQXI just because you didn't want to release your hardware a little earlier is monumentally stupid, it would give Sony good momentum and brandshare in Japan, while you'll just be getting a late port of the game. So if that game is coming in 2016, the NX should be ready for 2016.

But hey, you'll get your extra year of Wii U "support" (most likely 90% of which are outsourced games to external studios). Yippie. 

If they have a strong showing of software, and are willing to talk about projects that are still years out like the other companies are doing, I think they could easily find their space (just as the Wii U could have if there weren't so many freaking game droughts). They just need to get the right exclusives, and have the right first party titles at launch. And if they got something that is new and catches the consumers eye, all the more reason to get one when we're in the middle of a gen.

Getting Dragon Quest XI doesn't seem like (to consumers) that big of a deal. The series doesn't sell. Besides, how is releasing a game along side a system people have any different than waiting a year? If people have a PS4, they aren't going to rush out to get a NX because of Dragon Quest XI, lol. Complete non issue. 

Waiting an extra year could mean all the difference when companies have been known to exchange parts for better ones before mass production even within a year of release (the XBone did). Waiting another year for parts to become cheaper and have better hardware in the system (especially when bigger titles are still being released for the Wii U) is certainly not a terrible idea. 



Didnt Iwata say that NX isnt a simple replacement for Wii U and 3DS. It could be a 3rd pillar device for the short term, eventually taking over. There was the presentation not long ago that had NX (dedicated gaming device as it was) alongside Wii U and 3DS.



bigtakilla said:
Soundwave said:

What chance realistically would a "NX console" have launching in 2017 anyway?

That's FOUR YEARS after the PS4/XB1, they will have combined user bases approaching 90 million by then and no one is going to want to a 4-years too late console in that regard. 

In that case, Nintendo may just be better off making the home version more like a "dock/companion" to the portable, sort of like an accessorie than anything major, because no one but Nintendo fans who must play games on their TV (which is only about 20% of the people who buy Nintendo hardware) are going to buy it.

At least fall 2016 is still kinda in the mid-cycle of the current gen, but 2017 is getting way too late, talk will turn to the XBox/PS4 successors not long after that, so no one is going to see the NX as being "new", and PS4/XB1 will have a library of hundreds of titles compared to the NX which will start at maybe like 12-15 games at best.

NX should also launch when ever Dragon Quest XI launches, letting Sony have an exclusivity period over DQXI just because you didn't want to release your hardware a little earlier is monumentally stupid, it would give Sony good momentum and brandshare in Japan, while you'll just be getting a late port of the game. So if that game is coming in 2016, the NX should be ready for 2016.

But hey, you'll get your extra year of Wii U "support" (most likely 90% of which are outsourced games to external studios). Yippie. 

If they have a strong showing of software, and are willing to talk about projects that are still years out like the other companies are doing, I think they could easily find their space (just as the Wii U could have if there weren't so many freaking game droughts). They just need to get the right exclusives, and have the right first party titles at launch. And if they got something that is new and catches the consumers eye, all the more reason to get one when we're in the middle of a gen.

Getting Dragon Quest XI doesn't seem like (to consumers) that big of a deal. The series doesn't sell. Besides, how is releasing a game along side a system people have any different than waiting a year? If people have a PS4, they aren't going to rush out to get a NX because of Dragon Quest XI, lol. Complete non issue. 

Waiting an extra year could mean all the difference when companies have been known to exchange parts for better ones before mass production even within a year of release (the XBone did). Waiting another year for parts to become cheaper and have better hardware in the system (especially when bigger titles are still being released for the Wii U) is certainly not a terrible idea. 


If it's launching in 2017, then it's specs better be able to compete with the PS5 (FIVE, not PS4) and XBox 2 (or whatever they call it). Otherwise ... it's just going to be a niche device that sells maybe even less than the Wii U. Imagine the GameCube launching in 2005 instead of 2001. Or the N64 launching in 2000 instead of 1996, even the Saturn would have beat it. 

Also, c'mon really, Dragon Quest isn't a big deal? In Japan it most certainly is. DQXI + Zelda + Mario in the launch window most certainly would sell systems.