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Soundwave said:
Sony had losses but they still sold an incredible number of PS3s considering they started at $600 freaking dollars.

That just shows how dominant they are in the console business, it's like an athlete still being able to play a good game while playing on one leg or something.

Since Sony doesn't give me any of their money either, why the hell should I care if they took losses or not? They still were very clearly able to come out of that generation and are now able to market/sell the PS4 ... so much so that they're whupping Nintendo and MS again like they have for about 16/20 years (80% of the time).

Because we're having a debate whether the PS3 was a failure or not for Sony. It was.

As for them still selling a lot of consoles when they started at $600, well that says more about the people who purchased it at that price than their product.

According to your logic GC was a massive success because it led Nintendo to dominate next-gen.

Oh and Nintendo beat Sony with the PSP, PS3 and PS Vita. Sony beat Nintendo with the PS1, PS2 and PS4. That's 50% of the time...



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Samus Aran said:
Soundwave said:
Sony had losses but they still sold an incredible number of PS3s considering they started at $600 freaking dollars.

That just shows how dominant they are in the console business, it's like an athlete still being able to play a good game while playing on one leg or something.

Since Sony doesn't give me any of their money either, why the hell should I care if they took losses or not? They still were very clearly able to come out of that generation and are now able to market/sell the PS4 ... so much so that they're whupping Nintendo and MS again like they have for about 16/20 years (80% of the time).

Because we're having a debate whether the PS3 was a failure or not for Sony. It was.

As for them still selling a lot of consoles when they started at $600, well that says more about the people who purchased it at that price than their product.

According to your logic GC was a massive success because it led Nintendo to dominate next-gen.

Oh and Nintendo beat Sony with the PSP, PS3 and PS Vita. Sony beat Nintendo with the PS1, PS2 and PS4. That's 50% of the time...


Yes Nintendo had been able to beat Sony in handhelds. 

But consoles? Sony has flat out dominated them for the vast majority of 20 years now, the only time Nintendo had a decent stretch is when they were able to get casual gamers to buy in and they've since completely lost that audience. 

The PS3 may actually end up outselling the Wii too, depends on how long Sony wants to keep it going, they're going to hit 90 million for sure how far it goes beyond that I don't know. If they reach 100 mill they'll likely overtake the Wii in LTD totals. 

So that means even Nintendo's best selling console will have been outsold by Sony's worst selling console. 



Soundwave said:
Samus Aran said:
Soundwave said:
Sony had losses but they still sold an incredible number of PS3s considering they started at $600 freaking dollars.

That just shows how dominant they are in the console business, it's like an athlete still being able to play a good game while playing on one leg or something.

Since Sony doesn't give me any of their money either, why the hell should I care if they took losses or not? They still were very clearly able to come out of that generation and are now able to market/sell the PS4 ... so much so that they're whupping Nintendo and MS again like they have for about 16/20 years (80% of the time).

Because we're having a debate whether the PS3 was a failure or not for Sony. It was.

As for them still selling a lot of consoles when they started at $600, well that says more about the people who purchased it at that price than their product.

According to your logic GC was a massive success because it led Nintendo to dominate next-gen.

Oh and Nintendo beat Sony with the PSP, PS3 and PS Vita. Sony beat Nintendo with the PS1, PS2 and PS4. That's 50% of the time...


Yes Nintendo had been able to beat Sony in handhelds. 

But consoles? Sony has flat out dominated them for the vast majority of 20 years now, the only time Nintendo had a decent stretch is when they were able to get casual gamers to buy in and they've since completely lost that audience. 

The PS3 may actually end up outselling the Wii too, depends on how long Sony wants to keep it going, they're going to hit 90 million for sure how far it goes beyond that I don't know. If they reach 100 mill they'll likely overtake the Wii in LTD totals. 

So that means even Nintendo's best selling console will have been outsold by Sony's worst selling console. 

And Nintendo has made more money from the Wii era than Sony with the PS1+PS2+PS3+PS4 combined. What's your point?

Stop looking just at how much something sold.

Nintendo also completely dominates Sony when it comes to selling first party software. Games are something I value higher than the plastic boxes that play them. ;)

And I doubt the PS3 will sell 20M more consoles, not that it matters.



Samus Aran said:
Soundwave said:
Samus Aran said:
Soundwave said:
Sony had losses but they still sold an incredible number of PS3s considering they started at $600 freaking dollars.

That just shows how dominant they are in the console business, it's like an athlete still being able to play a good game while playing on one leg or something.

Since Sony doesn't give me any of their money either, why the hell should I care if they took losses or not? They still were very clearly able to come out of that generation and are now able to market/sell the PS4 ... so much so that they're whupping Nintendo and MS again like they have for about 16/20 years (80% of the time).

Because we're having a debate whether the PS3 was a failure or not for Sony. It was.

As for them still selling a lot of consoles when they started at $600, well that says more about the people who purchased it at that price than their product.

According to your logic GC was a massive success because it led Nintendo to dominate next-gen.

Oh and Nintendo beat Sony with the PSP, PS3 and PS Vita. Sony beat Nintendo with the PS1, PS2 and PS4. That's 50% of the time...


Yes Nintendo had been able to beat Sony in handhelds. 

But consoles? Sony has flat out dominated them for the vast majority of 20 years now, the only time Nintendo had a decent stretch is when they were able to get casual gamers to buy in and they've since completely lost that audience. 

The PS3 may actually end up outselling the Wii too, depends on how long Sony wants to keep it going, they're going to hit 90 million for sure how far it goes beyond that I don't know. If they reach 100 mill they'll likely overtake the Wii in LTD totals. 

So that means even Nintendo's best selling console will have been outsold by Sony's worst selling console. 

And Nintendo has made more money from the Wii era than Sony with the PS1+PS2+PS3+PS4 combined. What's your point?

Stop looking just at how much something sold.

Nintendo also completely dominates Sony when it comes to selling first party software. Games are something I value higher than the plastic boxes that play them. ;)

And I doubt the PS3 will sell 20M more consoles, not that it matters.


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Darwinianevolution said:
If the NX comes out next year, it will have to be backwards compatible to avoid cutting the lifespam of the last WiiU titles.

Pretty much impossible for it to be backwards compatible due to the gamepad which is going to be ditched



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Samus Aran said:
Soundwave said:
Sony had losses but they still sold an incredible number of PS3s considering they started at $600 freaking dollars.

That just shows how dominant they are in the console business, it's like an athlete still being able to play a good game while playing on one leg or something.

Since Sony doesn't give me any of their money either, why the hell should I care if they took losses or not? They still were very clearly able to come out of that generation and are now able to market/sell the PS4 ... so much so that they're whupping Nintendo and MS again like they have for about 16/20 years (80% of the time).

Because we're having a debate whether the PS3 was a failure or not for Sony. It was.

As for them still selling a lot of consoles when they started at $600, well that says more about the people who purchased it at that price than their product.

According to your logic GC was a massive success because it led Nintendo to dominate next-gen.

Oh and Nintendo beat Sony with the PSP, PS3 and PS Vita. Sony beat Nintendo with the PS1, PS2 and PS4. That's 50% of the time...

It's questionable. I disagree that we can consider PS3 a failure. It wasn't a runaway success, but it wasn't a tragedy in the end either. Plus it was an extremely valuable lesson, that they've taken to heart and it shows with PS4 - and that's priceless.

Nintendo didn't dominate last gen, not even close. 100 mil vs approx. 90 mil vs. approx. 85 mil and least sold software can't be considered domination by any strech. They won, but didn't dominate and the victory came at a huge price that they are paying right now. 3DS is the only Nintendo console that's dominating a Sony console - Sony messed up and gave up. DS was a decisive victory, but not a domination either.

PSX, PS2 were and PS4 is dominating the market.

All in all, these are the two great juggernaughts of the industry, but Sony is undeniably the dominant one ever since it entered the market.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

rolltide101x said:
Darwinianevolution said:
If the NX comes out next year, it will have to be backwards compatible to avoid cutting the lifespam of the last WiiU titles.

Pretty much impossible for it to be backwards compatible due to the gamepad which is going to be ditched


The console can be GamePad compatible for Wii U games, just like Wii U is WiiMote compatible. Plus Nintendo ditching a screen on the controller isn't all that certain. And I for one wouldn't want it - off-TV is a great feature.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

Scisca said:
rolltide101x said:

Pretty much impossible for it to be backwards compatible due to the gamepad which is going to be ditched


The console can be GamePad compatible for Wii U games, just like Wii U is WiiMote compatible. Plus Nintendo ditching a screen on the controller isn't all that certain. And I for one wouldn't want it - off-TV is a great feature.

That is a good point but yeah its 100% certain that the next Nintendo console wont have a screen on it. It is the primary reason the Wii U failed.

 

It is really the only flaw the Wii U has imo (besides lack of 3rd parties) 



rolltide101x said:
Scisca said:


The console can be GamePad compatible for Wii U games, just like Wii U is WiiMote compatible. Plus Nintendo ditching a screen on the controller isn't all that certain. And I for one wouldn't want it - off-TV is a great feature.

That is a good point but yeah its 100% certain that the next Nintendo console wont have a screen on it. It is the primary reason the Wii U failed


I don't know for sure. Probably not a giant screen, but just for rudimentary stuff maaaaaybe a smaller 3-inch low-res, low brightness display for game inputs now and again wouldn't really be the end of the world. 

Backwards compatibility I agree is unlikely to be that high on Nintendo's priorties. They need to make sure NX can compete in the here and now, not just satisfying the same group of fans by continually looking to the past. 



rolltide101x said:
Scisca said:


The console can be GamePad compatible for Wii U games, just like Wii U is WiiMote compatible. Plus Nintendo ditching a screen on the controller isn't all that certain. And I for one wouldn't want it - off-TV is a great feature.

That is a good point but yeah its 100% certain that the next Nintendo console wont have a screen on it. It is the primary reason the Wii U failed.

 

It is really the only flaw the Wii U has imo (besides lack of 3rd parties) 


Nah, it's not the primary reason. GamePad is a nice extra and is enticing to me, though obviously they messed up with the parts - Nintendo being Nintendo cheaped out on the parts, but fast development of the industry bit them in the behind, when everybody ditched this old tech and suddenly it became more expensive than newer, better tech, making the controller expensive.

The reason Wii U failed is cause it's too weak and has a unique architecture in a world that requires as much unity as possible to cut unnecessary costs.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.