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Angelv577 on 06 September 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Angelv577 said:

true but you also have to understand that xb1 isn't xb360 where it had a good marketshare almost everywhere thus investing in japanese games on xb360 made more sense back then that it's now.  "play it first on ps4" can mean a lot of things that it shouldn't be use as a 100% confirmation (DQX1 ring a bell?, the game is coming to ps4 with NX in mind).  Thing is ps4 is killing xb1 everywhere except US, so if FF15 and KH3 flopped hard on xb1 because that american audiencie didn't pick it up, you can expect ff7 remake exclusive for the single reason of making sense than anything else.  japanese games on xb1 are still unproven as the only games that we have is FF type 0 and even though it's not a mainline game, it might give an indication that japanese fans aren't on the console, hence why some might think FF15 and KH3 might be the real indicator.


If marketshare was the issue the game wouldn't be multiplat. Tomb Raider is still exclusive for a year. By thr time it hits playstation, barely anyone will want to play it late on thr ps4 because the holiday hype for the one will be quite large in the states. xbox one is still a threat to the ps4 in the states even though it's losing in the world. Microsoft doesn't need to win the world but they cannot lose the states. As for FFVII, it's coming after the pS4 exclusivity ends. I'm playing it on ps4 anyway just like I am playing tomb raider on the one. You can't get screwed by either company in their timed exclusive war if you own both consoles.

 

The one has fourth quarter on lock though. Backwards compatibility, revamped 60fps gears of War with halo and Tomb Raider? Sony had most of the year but they've certainly lost fourth quarter. MS has lost three quarters worth of battles. It wouldn't hurt to win one.

Let pretend that TR exclusivity situation wasnt announced before the game released on xb1, I dont know about you but if a game that was announced as an exclusive and later it was announced as atimed exclusive before the release of the game, then something isnt right, if anything that is an indication that SE are worried about the game sales, and as someone already told you, TR audience isnt the same as ff7 remake so I dont know why you keep bringing that game up when in fact we have other evidence like DQXI that says otherwise and that game is similar to FF audience.  

Dont know why the sales of the 4th quarter has to do with the ff7 possible xb1 version.  Xb1 won last 4th quarter as well and nothing change after that .  Ps4 keeps dominating outside US and regained the league in US.  Also it doesnt change the fact that if the japanese games audience is on ps4, then no amount of halo, TR or forza will bring them over to xbox, I wonder why, perhaps  because JRPG being completely different to those games might have something to do with it?.  

Look I am not saying its not coming to xb1, I am saying its reasonable to think its not 100% sure.



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asqarkabab on 06 September 2015

i will get a xbox one if the rumour of a mini becomes a reality



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Angelv577 on 06 September 2015
asqarkabab said:
i will get a xbox one if the rumour of a mini becomes a reality

It is fake confirmed by phil spencer I think.



KiigelHeart on 06 September 2015
Angelv577 said:
asqarkabab said:
i will get a xbox one if the rumour of a mini becomes a reality

It is fake confirmed by phil spencer I think.

Yep it's fake.



Roberto10 on 06 September 2015

Even though Halo, Forza and the Tomb Raider are releasing in the last quatrer of this year, I think the biggest games of the year will be multiplatform games again (CoD, Battlefront, AC etc) and they tend to perform better on PS4 so that by it's self is a reason to get a PS4. Xbox might have the better exclusive lineup this holiday but they haven't released anything this year and they have to compete with games like bloodborne.



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sethnintendo on 06 September 2015
jason1637 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
lol @ PS4 having more indies than Wii U. There might be a lot on PS4, but the eshop is loaded with junk.


What do oyu mean by "junk"

eshop games that spurge buys.  Meme run, The Letter, RCMADIAX games, etc...



asqarkabab on 06 September 2015
KiigelHeart said:
Angelv577 said:

It is fake confirmed by phil spencer I think.

Yep it's fake.


So then i have to wait to get it for 199 bucks sadly :(



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S.T.A.G.E. on 06 September 2015
Kyuu said:

Four things I learned from this:

* X1 library more diverse than Playstation 4
* Bloodborne is mediocre
* Japan doesn't exist
* Semi-exclusivity is Xbox exclusive!

Seriously though, imo X1 is easily the better system for the holidays if what you're after is the Q4 lineup. That is of course assuming you aren't a JRPG fan and/or you own Playstation 3.

Yep. They cannot accept that its just common sense that Microsoft has 4th quarter in the bag. JRPG fans will always try to deny it. Their subjective opinion is fine, but objectively speaking they stand alone.



S.T.A.G.E. on 06 September 2015
Angelv577 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Angelv577 said:

true but you also have to understand that xb1 isn't xb360 where it had a good marketshare almost everywhere thus investing in japanese games on xb360 made more sense back then that it's now.  "play it first on ps4" can mean a lot of things that it shouldn't be use as a 100% confirmation (DQX1 ring a bell?, the game is coming to ps4 with NX in mind).  Thing is ps4 is killing xb1 everywhere except US, so if FF15 and KH3 flopped hard on xb1 because that american audiencie didn't pick it up, you can expect ff7 remake exclusive for the single reason of making sense than anything else.  japanese games on xb1 are still unproven as the only games that we have is FF type 0 and even though it's not a mainline game, it might give an indication that japanese fans aren't on the console, hence why some might think FF15 and KH3 might be the real indicator.


If marketshare was the issue the game wouldn't be multiplat. Tomb Raider is still exclusive for a year. By thr time it hits playstation, barely anyone will want to play it late on thr ps4 because the holiday hype for the one will be quite large in the states. xbox one is still a threat to the ps4 in the states even though it's losing in the world. Microsoft doesn't need to win the world but they cannot lose the states. As for FFVII, it's coming after the pS4 exclusivity ends. I'm playing it on ps4 anyway just like I am playing tomb raider on the one. You can't get screwed by either company in their timed exclusive war if you own both consoles.

 

The one has fourth quarter on lock though. Backwards compatibility, revamped 60fps gears of War with halo and Tomb Raider? Sony had most of the year but they've certainly lost fourth quarter. MS has lost three quarters worth of battles. It wouldn't hurt to win one.

Let pretend that TR exclusivity situation wasnt announced before the game released on xb1, I dont know about you but if a game that was announced as an exclusive and later it was announced as atimed exclusive before the release of the game, then something isnt right, if anything that is an indication that SE are worried about the game sales, and as someone already told you, TR audience isnt the same as ff7 remake so I dont know why you keep bringing that game up when in fact we have other evidence like DQXI that says otherwise and that game is similar to FF audience.  

Dont know why the sales of the 4th quarter has to do with the ff7 possible xb1 version.  Xb1 won last 4th quarter as well and nothing change after that .  Ps4 keeps dominating outside US and regained the league in US.  Also it doesnt change the fact that if the japanese games audience is on ps4, then no amount of halo, TR or forza will bring them over to xbox, I wonder why, perhaps  because JRPG being completely different to those games might have something to do with it?.  

Look I am not saying its not coming to xb1, I am saying its reasonable to think its not 100% sure.


Lets take into account that TR exclusivity wasnt announced before the game released on Xbox One? Ok. Halo is still the most popular exclusive shooter and the first game generally is a console mover. You will see in october. Tomb Raider is only there to support the dominance of the lineup. Halo will be doing all of the work. Fourth quarter sales in America brings in more money than any other quarter of the year because its the season when people are most willing to spend. Microsoft looks like they are going two for two.for two.

Sony did the exclusivity deal with FF7 to keep the game away from Microsoft. Its the only reason they would just like Microsoft. The are one anothers primary competition. This has been going on for years and should be not new to you. These tactics are quite common place. COD DLC switching hand? Activision now supporting Sony more than Microsoft? EA siding with Microsoft and getting all of the extra deals? Come on. This is why we learn from history. The writing was always on the wall for you. "Coming first to playstation". What would the secondary option to Playstation be for Final Fantasy....and seriously...if you say PC or Wii U i'm going to have to seriously start questioning things.



Saeko on 06 September 2015

WiiU since i have already the ps4.