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Soundwave said:
It's been posted and speculated on a million times already on this board.

And the PSVita/Vita TV already basically does this so it's not really a new idea.

If you want to be technical about it, the portable Turbo Express played the exact same games (Hu Cards format) as the Turbo Grafx 16 (PC Engine in Japan) 25 years ago.


Partially true but the difference is that with Vita and Vita tv you are only getting the handheld games. But it's not like ps4 games can be used on vita.  What sony is doing basically what Nintendo did with gameboy advance and the gamecube.  Having all console games and handheld games available on either system would be a new concept.



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It's going to be awful waiting for Nintendo games to drop in price if the NX is going to be all digital. The whole generation could go by and some very popular games wouldn't budge lower than 30 or 40..



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spemanig said:
The cart thing has already been proven false by numerous people. It's just an SD card slot. The system is all digital. People will just deal with it when it comes out.


Proven false? More like assumed false.



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bowserthedog said:
Soundwave said:
It's been posted and speculated on a million times already on this board.

And the PSVita/Vita TV already basically does this so it's not really a new idea.

If you want to be technical about it, the portable Turbo Express played the exact same games (Hu Cards format) as the Turbo Grafx 16 (PC Engine in Japan) 25 years ago.


Partially true but the difference is that with Vita and Vita tv you are only getting the handheld games. But it's not like ps4 games can be used on vita.  What sony is doing basically what Nintendo did with gameboy advance and the gamecube.  Having all console games and handheld games available on either system would be a new concept.


I realize there are lots of young 'uns on this board that don't really know about game history prior to 2000 in many cases but 

Otherwise known as the TurboGrafx 16 in the US, ran the exact same games and they ran on a card format. You could take a PC Engine console game like Street Fighter II and play it on the portable PC Engine GT (portable). 

Fun fact: NEC and Nintendo were quite close, Nintendo actually considered making the PC Engine chipset their successor to the Famicom/NES at one point before nixing the idea and opting to build the SNES from scratch. 



i can tell you i won't buy the NX or any Nintendo system that doesn't have a physical option. I'm not kidding, i've been through every gen since the NES and i have plenty to play without buying another system the rest of my life. I don't think Nintendo will do that though, they have a lot of focus on Japan. The same country where music CDs are still huge, capcom released REmake PS3 physical because they demanded it. In Japan selling games back for cash is widespread, and they don't really have rental stores.
digital only is probably coming eventually, but 2016-2017 is not the time, especially for the Japanese.



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Samus Aran said:
90%+ of Nintendo's sales are from retail, that should tell you all you need to know.


No, the recent patent of an all digital console tells you all you need to know.



spemanig said:
Samus Aran said:
90%+ of Nintendo's sales are from retail, that should tell you all you need to know.


No, the recent patent of an all digital console tells you all you need to know.

As if companies act on all their patents, lol. As if you even know what that patent means.

Nintendo released a Wii mini without internet connection last gen. Does this mean that we're getting no internet as well?



Nautilus said:
spemanig said:


People like you are, first, in the minority, and second, fickle. If gaming begame all digital, 99% of people who prefer physical wouldn't give a shit and keep gaming reguardless. 99% of people who like Nintendo wouldn't look at a new Metroid on the NX and say "NOPE! No disc, no buy!" They'd shut the hell up and deal with it because the games are what matter.

As I have said, it wouldn't ruin anything with anyone. There are measures that can be done like I've mentioned, and frankly, even if they weren't done, it wouldn't matter because Nintendo doesn't need retailers. Do retailers stop the iPod, or the Kindle, or PCs, or literally any other digital content ditributor from rendering their physical competitors largely obsolete? No. They are all more successful, make more money, and retailers just deal with it.

And the most annoying thing is when people say it's a gamble. It's not a gamble. It's not a risk. It's literally a giant red sign reading *GET THE FUCKING HINT ALREADY.* It's already been proven massively successful and superior on every single form of media including gaming with PC. Consoles are literally the last man standing that hasn't gotten with the times in this reguard, and Nintendo doing is literally the easiest and most obvious move towards success. If you don't like it, you can just get a PS4 or XBO and buy physical there, like the millions who still buy books. Doesn't stop Kindle, ebooks, and the iPad from being massively successful anyway. Won't stop the NX.

If the NX fails, it will not be because it went digital, just like the Wii U didn't fail because it added a screen to its controller.

I never said that an all-digital console would never happen.I do agree with you, its kinda inevitable.While you are comparing two different types of media, music became more "popular" because of its digital distribution,even though at the same time it did get more pirated than ever.The point here is that we are not there yet.Not even close.You say im the minority, when all the numbers and statistics say otherwise.85% to 90% of games sold are physical(im getting that number out of my head.Fix it if it isnt close).And the prices of digital versions of AAA games arent cheaper to make the retailers happy.Why?Because physical is where almost all the money come from.It will come the time when digital will make for most of the sales, but we are not there.And even when that times comes, why would they not put an option to buy physical?It just dosent make sense.There will always be guys like me, that loves buying the disc,or whatever physical form it gets, and "feeling" the game in its own hands, even if we need to pay a little more.It would just be trowing money away.And yes, while i would not stop playing games just because all became digital, i would ceartanly buy less, because i like visiting stores and sometimes i buy on impulse, and its not the same thing as browsing an online store.So a no-physical console?Its a bad idea, by every angle you wish to see it.

An easy example is the early Xbox One problems.While it isnt quite exactly the same situation, i personally believe it would have a similar level of backlash from fans, as not putting a physical option would be an "anti-gamer" atitude, the same as the always online and no used game was.This is just my opinion though.


No, 85%-90% of games sold on physical platforms are physical. That's a major different, because there's no incentivizing of digital distributon. The introdicution of music, and books, and TV, and film, and games wasn't a slow trickle. It was all a hard stop. Products that were all digital like the iPod, iPhone, Kindle, iPad, Netflix, and Steam are what popularized them. Before those, people were "85%" physical too.

It's time yesterday to go digital. Gaming doesn't need retailers anymore to the extent people are making it out to be. There will likely be NFC download code cards for parents, retailers, and collecters who need something physical, but that's mearly a consession. It would likely be sold in a box just like retail games now, with the same kinds of art and such as retail games now, with the only difference being that instead of a disc inside, there'd be a card. Or a coin. Or an Amiibo. Or literally anything Nintendo wants because the formfactor won't matter as long as it has the NFC chip. Then you just go home, tap it on your NX, and bingo, your digital purchase is complete and downloading now.

It wouldn't throw anything away because the number of consumers Nintendo would lose from this change as opposed to the number they will gain is utterly insignificant. I can't say you won't buy less, but statistically, most people like you who say they would buy less wouldn't, and they're will be more than enough people who buy more in the change to make up for the minority that actually do buy less.

It's not at all the same thing. The XBO literally would not funtion if not connected online. It literally bricked. That was the major issue. Almost everything else was forward thinking and something they would have gotten away with fine. The draconian DRM was the issue, DRM that is still present in massively games like Destiny. (at least it was at launch) Destiny did more than fine with worse. Even still, the XBO still anchored itself to discs, which is a week stance to take when pushing for a digital platform. You go big or you go home. Also, the XBO had a serious PR problem with the way it seamed to be ashamed to be a game consoles, which clearly pissed off gamers. All of which won't be the case with the NX. The XBO would have been fine without the DRM and without the TV focus, and the NX will be even better off than that if it doesn't compromise digital, and I don't think it will.

I think when it's finally proven to be an all digital platform, there will be a little backlash, but definitely nothing even remotely close to the XBO reveal because we will know a lot more about the membership program by then, and there will be a more legitimate source explaining why digital benefits the NX's unified platform specifically.



Soundwave said:
bowserthedog said:


Partially true but the difference is that with Vita and Vita tv you are only getting the handheld games. But it's not like ps4 games can be used on vita.  What sony is doing basically what Nintendo did with gameboy advance and the gamecube.  Having all console games and handheld games available on either system would be a new concept.


I realize there are lots of young 'uns on this board that don't really know about game history prior to 2000 in many cases but 

Otherwise known as the TurboGrafx 16 in the US, ran the exact same games and they ran on a card format. You could take a PC Engine console game like Street Fighter II and play it on the portable PC Engine GT (portable). 

Fun fact: NEC and Nintendo were quite close, Nintendo actually considered making the PC Engine chipset their successor to the Famicom/NES at one point before nixing the idea and opting to build the SNES from scratch. 

The TurboExpress/PC Engine GT was a portable TurboGrafx 16 that came many years after the concole launched. Just Like the Sega Nomad is a portable Sega Genesis. Both products weren't offered from the start but, pretty much, when the consoles were about to die and in very limited quantities. The NX seems to offer both options from the begining or within a year from each other at most (my assumption is handheld first).

Not to take credit from these companies but making a limited handheld version of your soon to die console is not that big of a deal and anyone can do it. I don't think thats what the NX is. It's not even known if both, the NX handheld and console, will share the same exact components and will have the same performance level or if they will just share the OS across different hardware configurations. Games may run diferently depending on which device it is deployed. In other words, the NX seems to be more IPad/IPhone than TurboGrafx/TurboExpress or Genesis/Nomad. And there's a huge difference.

PS - Anyone here can do a 5 seconds google search and learn all this. You don't need to talk down to anyone.



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Samus Aran said:

As if companies act on all their patents, lol. As if you even know what that patent means.

Nintendo released a Wii mini without internet connection last gen. Does this mean that we're getting no internet as well?


Nintendo will act on this one. Get over that. This isn't just some concept for some experimental accessory. This is a detailed patent filed recently for a full blown console.

The Wii mini was an minor iteration to existing and aging hardware. This is a patent for a completely new piece of hardware. If you're going to seriously just assume, because you don't want to believe it, that a patent for a new console revealed at this time in this context is merely a dud concept, there's nothing more to say.