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Is paying for indie games a waster of money?

Yes 90 27.11%
 
No 74 22.29%
 
Only for lame indie games... 134 40.36%
 
What good indie games? 16 4.82%
 
Minecraft was an indie game so... 18 5.42%
 
Total:332

Not alot of Indie games altogether on WiiU is there? PSN and ID@Xbox seem to be doing a better job, despite lots of indies being a good fit for the Wii U userbase.

I'd say it's down to much bigger userbases of PS4/X1, and ease of porting to those from PC.



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ils411 said:
pokoko said:

You're trying to build a false and irrelevant argument.  Sony and Microsoft aren't going to stop making big budget exclusives, which makes your example meaningless.  They're adding content in addition to those big budget exclusives and trying to populate an entire library that will appeal to consumers as a whole.  In the realm of public perception, more games is better than less games--even if consumers don't want to play all of those games, the announcements themselves leave a positive impression relative to the continued health of the platform.  Volume is important.

Of course, that doesn't mean they can't have an impact on an individual basis, as well.  If someone is torn between wanting Halo and Uncharted, games like No Man's Sky or Rime can can give a consumer a nudge.  If you like the Whopper and the Big Mac equally, you might decide where to eat based on who has the best fries.

I think the proof is in the pudding.  The PS4 came out from the start showing us games, many of which were nice looking smaller titles, and they garnered praise and support right off the bat.  Journey was a downloadable title that Sony funded which became a fantastic success from almost any perspective.  No Man's Sky, as I mentioned above, was the talk of the forums when it was announced.  These are all positives.  Blockbuster positives?  No, not at all--they're smaller positives but they're also much cheaper.  I believe they can be worthy investments and I bet the people at Sony would agree.

Of course, despite people tossing around the word "moneyhat", the investment needed for a limited exclusivity deal can be remarkably minor.  Sony's Pub Fund is simply an advance against future royalties.  That's not exactly "throwing money around," but it can be a big help to developers who need some extra money to finish a game, which is why many people make the trade.

and yet, after the wall of text which is irrelevant to my question, you didn't answer it.

would you buy a console with a bunch of exclusive indies, or lets make it more tempting, a hundred exclusive indies vs a console with just halo 5?

yeah, no ones choosing that indie box over a console just with halo 5.

spin it all you want, indies mean shyet in the grand theme of things.

"Wall of text"?  Seriously?

Okay, I'll keep it simple for you, then.  

Your question has zero meaning because such a situation is not happening.  No one is abandoning big first-party exclusives.  What is happening is that console manufacturers are using smaller digital games to complement bigger retail titles, since they cost far less and can fill the cracks in the release schedule nicely.

In fact, it doesn't make sense to not invest in a promising new digital-only game, since the cost is so modest. 



Sony and MS arent really paying indie devolopers, they just include them into the ps+ and gold subscription in a deal with few money



90% of people here are ignoring the most important post in this thread... the one that gives the quoted statement in the OP context.



MDMAlliance said:
90% of people here are ignoring the most important post in this thread... the one that gives the quoted statement in the OP context.


Context sucks.



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beeje13 said:
Not alot of Indie games altogether on WiiU is there? PSN and ID@Xbox seem to be doing a better job, despite lots of indies being a good fit for the Wii U userbase.

I'd say it's down to much bigger userbases of PS4/X1, and ease of porting to those from PC.

Name me one big indie game that is missing on the Wii U? (besides Minecraft, can we still call this indie?)

It's getting Yooka-Laylee, Mighty No. 9, Bloodstained, Shantae: Half Genie Hero and Minecraft: Story Mode. Pretty much all of the big upcoming console indie games.



The thing is, Indies are games they could get if they wanted, since th multiplatform AAA francises are obviously out of reach



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

MDMAlliance said:
90% of people here are ignoring the most important post in this thread... the one that gives the quoted statement in the OP context.

...and you are doing a great job pointing that specific post out.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Pretty sure Sony doesnt throw cash at indie developers.

Pretty sure they have the right people, the right program that helps with the development/technical aspects/marketing of indie games.

Would No Man's Sky's have gotten this amount of attention without Sony? Nope.



Samus Aran said:
beeje13 said:
Not alot of Indie games altogether on WiiU is there? PSN and ID@Xbox seem to be doing a better job, despite lots of indies being a good fit for the Wii U userbase.

I'd say it's down to much bigger userbases of PS4/X1, and ease of porting to those from PC.

Name me one big indie game that is missing on the Wii U? (besides Minecraft, can we still call this indie?)

It's getting Yooka-Laylee, Mighty No. 9, Bloodstained, Shantae: Half Genie Hero and Minecraft: Story Mode. Pretty much all of the big upcoming console indie games.


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