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What is your opinion on the Ashley Madison Hack?

Website is at fault 10 3.36%
 
Website and users are at fault 34 11.41%
 
Everyone subject to hacking is a victim 44 14.77%
 
All cheaters should get screwed 75 25.17%
 
Cheating is no big deal, ... 8 2.68%
 
I hope I am not among the names leaked 11 3.69%
 
I keep my Love Pillow awa... 1 0.34%
 
Hackers, cheaters and the... 30 10.07%
 
The people cheated on and... 41 13.76%
 
I don't care. 44 14.77%
 
Total:298
FIT_Gamer on 25 August 2015

When i first heard about it i was like "who is this Ashley Madison bitch?"



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Qwark on 25 August 2015

Website is at fault, hacking ia illegale as is putting list with personal stuff on the internet without that individual knowing. I am not saying cheating is right but it isn't illegal in Canada so the hackers should be Punished.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

RubberWhistleHistle on 25 August 2015
JRPGfan said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

It is people's own choice to commit suicide. You can't blame that on somebody else. The cheater should be publicly shamed. Of course they want everything done in secret and in the dark where nobody knows about it. Why should the world revolve around these filthy pieces of garbage? They are running lives out of complete selfishness, and then we need to consider their feelings and keep it a secret? Give me a fucking break dude. They ruined their own lives, not the hackers. They killed themselves, not the hackers. And they deserve the misery that they themselves have brought upon their own lives 


You know that studies claim about 60%+ of every couple at some point cheat on one another? (man & women).

Not all these keep doing it, it happends once or twice and thats it (they stop on their own, without haveing gotten caught).

Everything goes back to normal, and they live a normal life with spouces happily non the wiser. No one suffers from it.

This hack isnt going to help anyone, its robbing people of their chances of a normal life.

Its going to result in alot of devorces that atleast will be alot more hurtfull and messy than normal.

So if you got cheated on, you would be just fine never knowing about it. You would rather continue being with this person who can cheat on you at any moment as long as you're happy. I find that to be very dubious 



CladInShadows on 25 August 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:
CladInShadows said:

I think you're trying to get a rise out of me.  That's what I think.  But to answer your question, I would deal with it personally and privately with my wife, and however that resolved itself, it would have absolutely nothing to do with the millions of people who just had their information stolen and publicly displayed.  And it wouldn't change my philosophy of staying the fuck out of other people's personal lives, whether their actions fit into my view of "morality" or not.

I'm not trying to get a rise out of you, I'm just passionate about this subject because I've seen what this kind of shit does. 

Props to you for trying to be as rational as possible about it, but I'll tell you now, it might be easier said than done. Once you really consider that this filth was watching a movie right next to you while thinking about somebody else, still having sex with you, not caring what kind of shit is being spread from fucking someone else or multiple other people, and lies to you on a daily basis about what they are doing, it might be s little bit harder than you think, and you just might be really thankful that they were exposed before you got somebody else's std. And that's another thing, now you have to go out of your way to get tested unless you are cool with not being 100% sure.

I've seen what it can do as well. A male friend of mine was cheated on a few years ago. And then he met a woman who was infinitely better and more suited for him.  And they just got married 2 and a half weeks ago.  And the person who cheated is now engaged to the one she cheated with.  If she didn't cheat, they might still be together, in their "tolerating each other" kind of marriage. My point isn't that the cheating was a good thing.  My point is that everyone's circumstance is different.  And we don't get to decide the punishment for these people just because we've deemed them morally inferior. Nobody has the right to make that judgement except the people involved.  Period.



Qwark on 25 August 2015
FIT_Gamer said:
When i first heard about it i was like "who is this Ashley Madison bitch?"


I tought private photo's from a certain cloud made  by Apple, which is also a violation of privacy right. 



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

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JRPGfan on 25 August 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:
JRPGfan said:


You know that studies claim about 60%+ of every couple at some point cheat on one another? (man & women).

Not all these keep doing it, it happends once or twice and thats it (they stop on their own, without haveing gotten caught).

Everything goes back to normal, and they live a normal life with spouces happily non the wiser. No one suffers from it.

This hack isnt going to help anyone, its robbing people of their chances of a normal life.

Its going to result in alot of devorces that atleast will be alot more hurtfull and messy than normal.

So if you got cheated on, you would be just fine never knowing about it. You would rather continue being with this person who can cheat on you at any moment as long as you're happy. I find that to be very dubious 

Honestly yes.

I even think I could forgive a girl I loved, if she came out and said "im sorry I cheated, it wont happen again".

Id prefer not to know ofcourse, if it didnt effect our relationship and she stopped on her own before getting caught.



RubberWhistleHistle on 25 August 2015

You guys just really need to put yourself in that situation. Take some time to really think about how you would feel if this was happening to you. Think about every aspect of it. It is the most fucked up thing somebody could do to you, I mean really. If you really take some time to put yourself in that position, the betrayal and hurt you would feel might be excruciating depending on how close you felt to that person. Think about living a lie every day, and being lied to. Just try imagining somebody you are in love with having sex with someone else. Try putting yourself in the position of being forced to leave somebody just one day out of nowhere because you found out. Try letting go of the companionship and the bond that you have developed. Think about never seeing or being around that person again, just one day.
I have no remorse for these cheaters



Mr_No on 25 August 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:
Mr_No said:

Have you considered that this information leak can not only ruin the cheaters but the spouses' life too? I agree cheaters deserve their comeuppance, but it should be in a way where friends or strangers don't have to know about it because it's not their business. Things like this should be handled delicately, you know, with a divorce lawyer and friends not knowing about it. It could cause embarrassment for the cheater and his spouse. Three people committed suicide due to this, and it shouldn't have escalated that far.

It is people's own choice to commit suicide. You can't blame that on somebody else. The cheater should be publicly shamed. Of course they want everything done in secret and in the dark where nobody knows about it. Why should the world revolve around these filthy pieces of garbage? They are running lives out of complete selfishness, and then we need to consider their feelings and keep it a secret? Give me a fucking break dude. They ruined their own lives, not the hackers. They killed themselves, not the hackers. And they deserve the misery that they themselves have brought upon their own lives 

I don't know in what way cheating has affected your life, and I don't want to know either. But when a wife sees her husband's name on a Ashley Madison leak, and all her friends, acquaintances, work partners know about it, it affects the wife, the children (if they have), and the immediate family, and not the cheater exclusively. I'm not defending cheaters at all, and I'm not asking for them to get pity, but a separation/divorce should be dealt in a proper way with the cheater and his/her spouse dealing with it accordingly, not with the news blowing up in their faces.



RubberWhistleHistle on 25 August 2015
CladInShadows said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:

I'm not trying to get a rise out of you, I'm just passionate about this subject because I've seen what this kind of shit does. 

Props to you for trying to be as rational as possible about it, but I'll tell you now, it might be easier said than done. Once you really consider that this filth was watching a movie right next to you while thinking about somebody else, still having sex with you, not caring what kind of shit is being spread from fucking someone else or multiple other people, and lies to you on a daily basis about what they are doing, it might be s little bit harder than you think, and you just might be really thankful that they were exposed before you got somebody else's std. And that's another thing, now you have to go out of your way to get tested unless you are cool with not being 100% sure.

I've seen what it can do as well. A male friend of mine was cheated on a few years ago. And then he met a woman who was infinitely better and more suited for him.  And they just got married 2 and a half weeks ago.  And the person who cheated is now engaged to the one she cheated with.  If she didn't cheat, they might still be together, in their "tolerating each other" kind of marriage. My point isn't that the cheating was a good thing.  My point is that everyone's circumstance is different.  And we don't get to decide the punishment for these people just because we've deemed them morally inferior. Nobody has the right to make that judgement except the people involved.  Period.

People shouldn't be living a life where they are tolerating eachother. I agree with you there, and I understand that you're not condoning cheating even though it was the tool that made for a happier ending. I understand all that. Some people could even be happy about it because it means they don't have to stay with that person anymore; everyone's situation is different. Your point is completely understood.

I have already made my points and I'm still going to stick with them despite the fact that everyone's situation is different. The true victims deserve to know what is going on. People living secret lives, it needs to be blown up so the actual innocent people can stop being hurt and abused by their actions. So therfore, I'm still glad it happened. Maybe we can at least understand eachother a little bit better now.



RubberWhistleHistle on 25 August 2015
Mr_No said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
Mr_No said:

Have you considered that this information leak can not only ruin the cheaters but the spouses' life too? I agree cheaters deserve their comeuppance, but it should be in a way where friends or strangers don't have to know about it because it's not their business. Things like this should be handled delicately, you know, with a divorce lawyer and friends not knowing about it. It could cause embarrassment for the cheater and his spouse. Three people committed suicide due to this, and it shouldn't have escalated that far.

It is people's own choice to commit suicide. You can't blame that on somebody else. The cheater should be publicly shamed. Of course they want everything done in secret and in the dark where nobody knows about it. Why should the world revolve around these filthy pieces of garbage? They are running lives out of complete selfishness, and then we need to consider their feelings and keep it a secret? Give me a fucking break dude. They ruined their own lives, not the hackers. They killed themselves, not the hackers. And they deserve the misery that they themselves have brought upon their own lives 

I don't know in what way cheating has affected your life, and I don't want to know either. But when a wife sees her husband's name on a Ashley Madison leak, and all her friends, acquaintances, work partners know about it, it affects the wife, the children (if they have), and the immediate family, and not the cheater exclusively. I'm not defending cheaters at all, and I'm not asking for them to get pity, but a separation/divorce should be dealt in a proper way with the cheater and his/her spouse dealing with it accordingly, not with the news blowing up in their faces.

All those people were being affected anyway, and by who?? THE SCUM FUCK CHEATER. All of this shit is their fault. They are the ones causing this. If what they have done gets blown up, it's their fault! The family, children and spouse were already being affected by their selfish actions. When you do this completely SELFISH crap, it affects people. And you want to give these same people who are causing all this some kind of reprieve? That is ridiculous