Dude, you couldn't be anymore clueless. Seriously. The arguement wasn't going anywhere because you weren't argueing anything, because you didn't have any counters for anything... likely because you aren't educated enough in economics to comprhend what skyrender was talking about.

The fact that they are making 1.8 a month IS crystal clear.  You know... in the financial reports.  This isn't something you can spin. 

Hey Kaz... this may sound silly, but who are you talking to?  You didn't leave the person's name in the quote. 

DJmeister. It's sad because usually he's pretty reasonable... I ended up quoting the wrong post. I don't get how it's not an understandable thing to people.

Or at least how people can't even argue anything thing by countering points.  Just repeating yourself and not responding to someone else post is about the most obnoxious thing someone can do. 

I thought it was common knowledge that Nintendo was producing 1.8 million a month ...???

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/19/nintendos-making-1-8-million-wiis-every-month/
http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/nintendo-churning-out-18-million-wiis-per-month-323505.php
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gaming/nintendo-making-18-million-wiis-per-month-shortages-will-continue-323694.php
http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/10/26/nintendo-producing-18-million-wiis-per-month/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/nintendo-cranking-out-1-8-million-wiis-per-month/
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164437
http://nintendowiipro.com/nintendo-wii-shortages/
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/11/19/nintendo-says-theyre-making-1-8-million-wiis-a-month/

According to their quarterly report, Nintendo sold 14.29 million Wii's between April and December which amounts to an average of 1.59 million per month.

They didn't actually ramp up to 1.8 million per month til the summer, so I don't know why anyone would argue they are producing anything less than 1.8 million per month now. By law they have to print accurate numbers in their fiscal reports.

Were it not for the financial report depicting the 1.8m figure according to sqrl, DMeisterJ may have a position to argue from.

However assuming that the 1.8m figure is true and if it truly is in their financials, it most certainly is...  One or more of three explanations for this behavior must be true as well.

1)  Demand has fallen.  If sales are down, then demand being down is a fair possibility.  However due to the Wii's near constant sales record, this is highly unlikely.  A shrinking demand pool would not appear suddenly rather it would likely be more progressive as we would see the sales slowly shrinking.

2) Distribution is not getting the Wii's to the correct market.  Perhaps Nintendo has flooded one of its market's to the point of overaturation.  This would mean that in some retail locations there would be oodles of Wiis sitting on shelves taking up space.  Were it not for Nintendo's track record for distribution as good as it is (high demand everywhere makes it look good at any rate), this would be fairly likely.  As it is, I doubt their distribution chain would suddenly pass out at the wheel at this point.

3)  Distribution is not putting Wiis into the market (aka stockpiling).  Of the three likely explanations, this is the only one that cannot be sufficiently refuted.  The relevant question is:  Does Nintendo have a history of this kind of behavior?  I believe it does however I would have to check my facts on that to be sure.

I think #3 is the likeliest of our options.  Feel free to disagree though.  YMMV.

 Actually no it doesn't clear everything up.  It doesn't explain why you felt the need to post the exact same thing three times in responce to SkyRender.  You were being beligerant towards him and his views which clearly doesn't jive with your new position. It was only after realizing that several people disagreed with you and had facts to support their position that you then backed away and now claim sanctuary by saying "its just my opinion".

You quite clearly thought you were right.  You thought it strongly enough that you didn't bother to give consideration to what SkyRender said and instead ignored him and re-stated what you had already said three times.

I realize that you saw the monthly sales below 1.8m and based your position that they were not producing 1.8m per month on that fact. But when we consider that the executives of Nintendo stake their freedom on the assertion that they are producing 1.8m units per month I feel inclined to believe them.   But in addition if we are to examine things a bit we see that from Aug '07 through Feb '08 the mean sales for the Wii have been just shy of 1.7m units. 

I just wanted to add that I don't hate or even dislike you DMJ. You get on my nerves some times sure but you're far from being the worst poster around and I fully recognize that we have different tastes. I actually appreciate the diversity of tastes on this site as there are several games that I never would have tried without the folks here recommending them (Z&W anyone?). This is one of the big reasons I enjoy this site actually.

I think you just get carried away with this stuff occasionally and this is one of those situations. It happens to pretty much everyone some time or another and its hardly worth condemning someone over. I think you should re-read what some of the people have said and re-examine the facts a bit, put the truth of the matter ahead of your pride and see if you don't get a different result. If you do get a different result I think you will find you can earn respect by showing that you are willing to admit when you get something wrong.

You got owned by Sky Render. Maybe you should look up some numbers first before posting random stuff.

Nice to have a little perspective.