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mornelithe on 13 August 2015
Slarvax said:
mornelithe said:

...Yeah, that and people have gotten in serious trouble (like, with their jobs) for sharing NPD with the non-paying public.

He still shares with NeoGaf... Or not? I don't know much about the topic.

No idea, I'm just referring to what occurred with previous users (Can't remember the name, had a self-ban because the employer found out who they were and basically called them in and said stop it, or find another job).



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Slarvax on 13 August 2015
mornelithe said:
Slarvax said:

He still shares with NeoGaf... Or not? I don't know much about the topic.

No idea, I'm just referring to what occurred with previous users (Can't remember the name, had a self-ban because the employer found out who they were and basically called them in and said stop it, or find another job).

Oh yeah, I remember that. Believe it was "Aquamarine" or something like that. I know the other one is Creamsugar.



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binary solo on 13 August 2015

Damn! imagine if PS4 is 2:1 over Xb one in July. That would be crazy. And I think Sony PR would probably have said as much. So I don't think it will be.

So I'm guessing 50% is rounded up to the nearest multiple of 5. A 250K for PS4 for July would make the PS4bone LTD 48.5% greater than the PS360 launch aligned LTD. That's close enough to 50% to say 50% when comparing generations. The lower end for PS4 is 190K. If PS4 only got 190K then it would be 48% flat. Either way it's close enough to say 50% in this context. But the ceiling, for being at or just below 50% is 407K which means 2:1 PS4 over Xb one for July is possible with 388K being the 2:1 mark.



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Ryng on 13 August 2015
binary solo said:
Damn! imagine if PS4 is 2:1 over Xb one in July. That would be crazy. And I think Sony PR would probably have said as much. So I don't think it will be.

So I'm guessing 50% is rounded up to the nearest multiple of 5. A 250K for PS4 for July would make the PS4bone LTD 48.5% greater than the PS360 launch aligned LTD. That's close enough to 50% to say 50% when comparing generations. The lower end for PS4 is 190K. If PS4 only got 190K then it would be 48% flat. Either way it's close enough to say 50% in this context. But the ceiling, for being at or just below 50% is 407K which means 2:1 PS4 over Xb one for July is possible with 388K being the 2:1 mark.

Dude... stop. just stop.



binary solo on 13 August 2015
RolStoppable said:
binary solo said:

I make it 407K. But even that is well above what I woulf think was likely. There is no way PS4 sales in July > PS4 sales in June if Xb one sales have dropped month on month, or can it? Week by week June PS4 sales = 92.5K per week and 407K in July = 81.4K per week. Maybe 407K is possible. High 300's still puts the combined sales very near 50%, so yeah maybe PS4 really is that big in July. That would be pretty wowser, and mean the Batman bundle really had major legs on it.

June was a five week month, July is four weeks. So the weekly sales rate would have increased from ~75k to ~100k in your example.

Huh. Looking at my calendar it seems like June should be 4 weeks and July 5 weeks. Oh well, that mucks things up a bit with the notion that July could be higher than June for PS4.



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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

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binary solo on 13 August 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:
binary solo said:
Damn! imagine if PS4 is 2:1 over Xb one in July. That would be crazy. And I think Sony PR would probably have said as much. So I don't think it will be.

So I'm guessing 50% is rounded up to the nearest multiple of 5. A 250K for PS4 for July would make the PS4bone LTD 48.5% greater than the PS360 launch aligned LTD. That's close enough to 50% to say 50% when comparing generations. The lower end for PS4 is 190K. If PS4 only got 190K then it would be 48% flat. Either way it's close enough to say 50% in this context. But the ceiling, for being at or just below 50% is 407K which means 2:1 PS4 over Xb one for July is possible with 388K being the 2:1 mark.

Dude... stop. just stop.

Stop what?



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

mornelithe on 13 August 2015
Slarvax said:
mornelithe said:

No idea, I'm just referring to what occurred with previous users (Can't remember the name, had a self-ban because the employer found out who they were and basically called them in and said stop it, or find another job).

Oh yeah, I remember that. Believe it was "Aquamarine" or something like that. I know the other one is Creamsugar.

Yeah that's the one.  It's clear NPD cracked down on the leaks fo sho.  We'll still get them, of course, but yeah, they take longer nowadays.



ZhugeEX on 13 August 2015
DerNebel said:

What I'm wondering, does ZhugeEx have access to NPD numbers? And if so, why doesn't he share them with us? :/

I don't have first hand access to NPD. 

I either post stuff that is publicly available or that I've been told/seen from a reliable source. I also have a database of accurate data going back to 1994. 



NewGuy on 13 August 2015

If I were the head of SCEA (new guy that took over for Jack Trenton, forgot his name), my main concern would be casual and family oriented titles (JP, Minecraft) which seem to always sell better on Xbone.

 

Ryng_Tolu said:

Unrless another source:
PS4 = 565k


Lol what? No way. Where did you get this from?



Ryng on 13 August 2015
NewGuy said:

If I were the head of SCEA (new guy that took over for Jack Trenton, forgot his name), my main concern would be casual and family oriented titles (JP, Minecraft) which seem to always sell better on Xbone.

 

Ryng_Tolu said:

Unrless another source:
PS4 = 565k


Lol what? No way. Where did you get this from?

It was a joke...