Lone_Canis_Lupus said: kenzomatic said: Lone_Canis_Lupus said: Kasz216 said: Lone_Canis_Lupus said: Kasz216 said: I'll put it this way. Look at credible studies on media piracy. (aka not ones that are just... they downloaded 10 copies that means we lost 600 dollars!)
You'll see that the results show their isn't a statistcal differnece from zero. In other words, piracy doesn't really effect media sales. While it lowers some peoples purchases who buy games... it also gets people who wouldn't buy games to buy hardware. It Also gets people who wouldn't buy games to buy hardware, get enthused about a medium they weren't as familiar with before and start buying the real product.
One Microsoft employee's model is "Don't pirate, but if you do pirate... pirate us." because they know if they aren't going to make a sale anyway it benfits them to have the pirates be used to their software.
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Look, forget the hardware for a minute Kasz, I'm talking STRICTLY about software and pirating. People complain about the PSP sales being so low, but they ignore the fact of just how much games are pirated. I'm talking about why software sales are low, not about the hardware sales. I'm giving a reason to people about why the software sales are low. |
And I'm saying I don't thing software sales are low. I think they are about exactly where they should be. If you removed piracy from the equation there wouldn't be a statistically significant change... those people who aren't buying PSP games still wouldn't be buying PS games. |
So, you're saying people that pirate wouldn't buy a PSP anyway? That makes it seem like the games really aren't that important to them. That's like saying people that steal a HDTV still wouldn't buy it even if they had the money for it. If people couldn't pirate, it wouldn't scare them away from buying games with their own money if they could and really wanted to. |
No it's like saying people who steel a HDTV wouldn't buy one because they don't have the money because it's not as important as other things. And if people couldn't pirate they wouldn't get 90% of the stuff they download, because they weren't that intersted to begin with. |
Is there some study for something like this? I'd like to know what a majority of pirates pirate for...if they just don't have the money, or because they'd rather not have to pay for it? |
There are several studies that focus around those who don't pirate out of necessity, though they just about all focus on the music and movie industries. The studies show that music piracy doesn't effect the rate at which people buy CDs. In fact on average people who pirate more actually tend to buy more CDs because piracy further indoctrinates them into the "music" lifestyle.
As for studying the number of people who pirate just because they are poor, I can't say. Though that kind of piracy is definitly beneficial.
Of course just straight Blackmarket selling of products piracy is bad for a company because often times in plenty of sectors this replaces the real product. Customers couldn't get the unpirated product unless they went well out of their way to pay more money.
Either way, considering the studies of the above seem to show that even the people who could afford it "as a group" aren't hurting it... then the split doesn't really matter.
Of course piracy still is wrong. It's not stealing exactly, since it's not like you are depriving people, but it is wrong.