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Goatseye said:
DerNebel said:
 

The point of PSNow and EA Access really is fundamentally different, so I don't see why people keep comparing the two. But yes, when PSNow starts offering new game releases then that service could also offer special game content to reel people in.

It's not hard to see that PSNow and EA Access are both the same thing. They're subscription-based gaming service that offer a wide range of games for a fee.

The only apparent differences are the origin of the games (publishers), service delivery methods (stream vs download) and pricing (PSNow $19.99/month vs EA Access $4.99/month or $2.50/month with 12 month sub).


It's not hard to see that PSNow and EA Access are not the same thing, if you know what PSNow is. 

 

What you don't understand is that ok, EA Access is a good value for some people (I couldn't care less personally, I play one EA game per year tops), but it's the possible future that is worrying. Don't forget that their job is to make money, and to find new ways to make more money. They're not a charity.That's why I talked about DLCs earlier. 

 

At the beginning, DLCs were a good thing. We had expansion packs to buy, and then some downloadable content for free, mods, some aesthetic content, etc... Cool things and a lot of great value. And now, we have episodic games and games in kits, pay to win content, games that you can't play entirely without paying anything more, and games with so little content you have to wait for DLCs to really enjoy the game. 

 

Same things with patches. Years ago, it was great! Your game has a glitch in it? Don't worry, with internet we can fix it even after the game's release, that's cool! It's great to be able to fix some mistakes! And now? Now we have broken games finished without quality control, now we have games barely playable without a few patches. Now we have Batman PC. 

 

That's why some of us are being really careful about EA Access. Be careful what you wish for and what you support. 5 dollars a month can become 30 or more if all publishers get on board. And why not add value to it to get new members, with exclusive content for Access members, like exclusive DLCs, exclusive multiplayer mode, or "early access" for weeks or even months. And hey, with all that great content, you can't complain if we raise the price a bit. Everyone should join anyway, it's a great value for the true video games experience. All these advantages, it's a great time to be a gamer, isn't it? 

 

That was my point earlier. It's great that you enjoy EA Access. But I'd still be careful about where it can/will lead the video game industry. We've seen enough examples now to learn this carefulness. 



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Ruler said:

its not an option for me if they screw the consumer and delay the game on porpoise to sell their EA access 

There is no deliberate delay of the game to allow it on EA Access first.  The "delaying" of the game that you speak of is the time it takes to produce and distribute the physical products so that they can have digital and physical release same day.  Here is how it works:

Step 1: Game gets made then "goes gold" indicating it is complete and ready to be played.

Step 2: Game then gets printed to discs.  Meanwhile, the digital version continues to be playable, but isn't released.  This is so that brick and mortar stores don't lose their shit and then eventually go out of business (for now anyway).

Step 3: EA Access allows for consumers to play the game a few days prior to it's actual release.

Step 4: Discs arrive at retailers and the digital version goes up on all available digital storefronts.

So no, there is no conspiracy to keep the game out of your hands so that others can have it first.  It is simply a publisher giving their fans an option to try the game before they spend the money on it, for a fraction of the cost of the game itself.



Faelco said:


It's not hard to see that PSNow and EA Access are not the same thing, if you know what PSNow is. 

 

What you don't understand is that ok, EA Access is a good value for some people (I couldn't care less personally, I play one EA game per year tops), but it's the possible future that is worrying. Don't forget that their job is to make money, and to find new ways to make more money. They're not a charity.That's why I talked about DLCs earlier. 

 

At the beginning, DLCs were a good thing. We had expansion packs to buy, and then some downloadable content for free, mods, some aesthetic content, etc... Cool things and a lot of great value. And now, we have episodic games and games in kits, pay to win content, games that you can't play entirely without paying anything more, and games with so little content you have to wait for DLCs to really enjoy the game. 

 

Same things with patches. Years ago, it was great! Your game has a glitch in it? Don't worry, with internet we can fix it even after the game's release, that's cool! It's great to be able to fix some mistakes! And now? Now we have broken games finished without quality control, now we have games barely playable without a few patches. Now we have Batman PC. 

 

That's why some of us are being really careful about EA Access. Be careful what you wish for and what you support. 5 dollars a month can become 30 or more if all publishers get on board. And why not add value to it to get new members, with exclusive content for Access members, like exclusive DLCs, exclusive multiplayer mode, or "early access" for weeks or even months. And hey, with all that great content, you can't complain if we raise the price a bit. Everyone should join anyway, it's a great value for the true video games experience. All these advantages, it's a great time to be a gamer, isn't it? 

 

That was my point earlier. It's great that you enjoy EA Access. But I'd still be careful about where it can/will lead the video game industry. We've seen enough examples now to learn this carefulness. 

1- You didn't explain why PSnow and EA Access are different.

2- Basically you're telling me not to get outside because I might get harmed.



Goatseye said:
Faelco said:
 


It's not hard to see that PSNow and EA Access are not the same thing, if you know what PSNow is. 

 

What you don't understand is that ok, EA Access is a good value for some people (I couldn't care less personally, I play one EA game per year tops), but it's the possible future that is worrying. Don't forget that their job is to make money, and to find new ways to make more money. They're not a charity.That's why I talked about DLCs earlier. 

 

At the beginning, DLCs were a good thing. We had expansion packs to buy, and then some downloadable content for free, mods, some aesthetic content, etc... Cool things and a lot of great value. And now, we have episodic games and games in kits, pay to win content, games that you can't play entirely without paying anything more, and games with so little content you have to wait for DLCs to really enjoy the game. 

 

Same things with patches. Years ago, it was great! Your game has a glitch in it? Don't worry, with internet we can fix it even after the game's release, that's cool! It's great to be able to fix some mistakes! And now? Now we have broken games finished without quality control, now we have games barely playable without a few patches. Now we have Batman PC. 

 

That's why some of us are being really careful about EA Access. Be careful what you wish for and what you support. 5 dollars a month can become 30 or more if all publishers get on board. And why not add value to it to get new members, with exclusive content for Access members, like exclusive DLCs, exclusive multiplayer mode, or "early access" for weeks or even months. And hey, with all that great content, you can't complain if we raise the price a bit. Everyone should join anyway, it's a great value for the true video games experience. All these advantages, it's a great time to be a gamer, isn't it? 

 

That was my point earlier. It's great that you enjoy EA Access. But I'd still be careful about where it can/will lead the video game industry. We've seen enough examples now to learn this carefulness. 

1- You didn't explain why PSnow and EA Access are different.

2- Basically you're telling me not to get outside because I might get harmed.


PSNow is a game streaming service, designed for previous generation games (PS3), and allow people to play these games directly from their TV, mobile, Blu ray player... Without a Playstation. Please show me how EA Access do that. 

 

2 missed the point completely. If you want metaphors, I'll try one : I'm telling you if you've been sick everytime you went to the restaurant across the street, maybe you should be careful and not rush there when they have a special offer with a free dessert for a paid dish.

Not too happy about that metaphor, but I sure hope people will understand the point of my previous post without further explanation (and I'm sure some will, and some others don't want to). 



MoHasanie said:
I'm not sure how anyone can say EA access is bad. Its $2.50 a month to play free games and get early access. And even if you don't want it, its always nice to have the option of getting it rather than having no options at all. Personally, I like the service and I hope Ubisoft and Square Enix offer similar services.

They dont have xbox one and thats it. If EA access is exclusive for PS4, their reaction will be completely different.





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mymuro said:
MoHasanie said:
I'm not sure how anyone can say EA access is bad. Its $2.50 a month to play free games and get early access. And even if you don't want it, its always nice to have the option of getting it rather than having no options at all. Personally, I like the service and I hope Ubisoft and Square Enix offer similar services.

They dont have xbox one and thats it. If EA access is exclusive for PS4, their reaction will be completely different.



No, If EA Access was exclusive or available for PS4, guess what... I still wouldnt want it. I dont want to pay to play a demo, and I dont want to pay to get a game a few days early. Also I dont really much care for most of EA's output over the last few years, it's really gone a bit downhill for me.



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Madword said:
mymuro said:

They dont have xbox one and thats it. If EA access is exclusive for PS4, their reaction will be completely different.



No, If EA Access was exclusive or available for PS4, guess what... I still wouldnt want it. I dont want to pay to play a demo, and I dont want to pay to get a game a few days early. Also I dont really much care for most of EA's output over the last few years, it's really gone a bit downhill for me.


Drop the excuse please. You dont have  an xbox one, do you?

 

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mymuro said:
Madword said:

No, If EA Access was exclusive or available for PS4, guess what... I still wouldnt want it. I dont want to pay to play a demo, and I dont want to pay to get a game a few days early. Also I dont really much care for most of EA's output over the last few years, it's really gone a bit downhill for me.


Drop the excuse please. You dont have  an xbox one, do you?

No I dont have an XBO....You dont know me, so stop with the rediculous slating of people because they dont fit in with your opinion.

I have a differing opinion than you, so what..... stop being so childish.

 

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mymuro said:
Madword said:

No, If EA Access was exclusive or available for PS4, guess what... I still wouldnt want it. I dont want to pay to play a demo, and I dont want to pay to get a game a few days early. Also I dont really much care for most of EA's output over the last few years, it's really gone a bit downhill for me.


Drop the excuse please. You dont have  an xbox one, do you?

 

I don't. Last EA game I played was FIFA 14. Do you really think I want EA Access? Do you think I'm jealous of your feature and complaining about it because of that? ^^

 

It's pretty funny to ignore all criticisms and arguments made in this thread and just respond "U mad because you don't have an Xbox One". I could say "People are making fun of The Order and Godzilla just because they don't have a PS4", but that would mean avoiding all critical thinking and possible interesting discussions. 



mymuro said:
Madword said:

No, If EA Access was exclusive or available for PS4, guess what... I still wouldnt want it. I dont want to pay to play a demo, and I dont want to pay to get a game a few days early. Also I dont really much care for most of EA's output over the last few years, it's really gone a bit downhill for me.


Drop the excuse please. You dont have  an xbox one, do you?

You don't actually need to own an item to have an opinion on a feature.  I don't have an XB1 yet, and when I get it I don't plan on getting EA Access.  My reasoning is simple.  I only really care about 2 of EA's current franchises: Dragon Age and Mass Effect.  When I buy them it will be on PS4 as it is the more capable hardware.  The 6 bucks I save per game every 2 years or so (on average based on the releases) isn't worth the 30 bucks a year for the largely annual franchises that I don't play anyway and the early access to them.

Now, if EA puts out a few more compelling games for me and the savings become better than 3 bucks a year for me?  Great, I re-evaluate.  See how that works?  :p