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They say the reason Goku doesn't just get kryptonite or instant transmission Superman to a red sun is because it's against his character. He wouldn't try to beat an opponent by exploiting their weakness.

Solution: Vegeta vs. Superman.

What kind of cop out would Screw Attack come up with to make Superman win this one? Because he would most certainly use whatever he could to defeat his opponent. 



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bigtakilla said:
HollyGamer said:

No, you need a wide knowlage to be able to judge both of background story, Superman is just a super Man (a Man that powerful among man), while Son Goku was taken from the Journey to West Story were the Goku is the monkey that stand toe to toe with the King of god him self  

But Gods are only as powerful as they are made by the person creating them. Superman by far surpassed anything that anyone in the DB universe had done.

Because Superman story was Intended for a Story that involve alien and human  , and Dragonball intend to tell a story of man  that surpase the God?

I have read the new literations of Superman that can melt the universe with his eye but , there is no story that involve God there , so when we talk about the strongest entity then it must be God it self, then when we compare who is the strongest then Goku > God (Dragonball Universe)  > His creations  Alien (Frieza, Cell, Superman, etc) > His Creations (Human).

Well then of course if we talk about fictional character then the fictional God is powerless infront of the writer  



HollyGamer said:
batgod said:
goku is a cheap rip-off off superman and goku is weak compared to half of all comic book characters and superman is by far more powerful than anyone in db universe and so is thanos or Thor or Dr doom or hyperion or Darkseid or doomsday or galactus or any of his heralds or any omega level mutant or the phoenix force or captain atom or Dr manhaten and shit ton of others oh and superman is by more interesting than that one dimensional freak goku

No, you need a wide knowlage to be able to judge both of background story, Superman is just a super Man (a Man that powerful among man), while Son Goku was taken from the Journey to West Story were the Goku is the monkey that stand toe to toe with the King of god him self  

yeah, an alien from a far away planet gets sent to earth as a child an barely escapes said planets destruction that then grows up on earth an orphan an becomes super strong and a savior. 



batgod said:
HollyGamer said:

No, you need a wide knowlage to be able to judge both of background story, Superman is just a super Man (a Man that powerful among man), while Son Goku was taken from the Journey to West Story were the Goku is the monkey that stand toe to toe with the King of god him self  

yeah, an alien from a far away planet gets sent to earth as a child an barely escapes said planets destruction that then grows up on earth an orphan an becomes super strong and a savior. 

with a tails and able to kill God it self , which is Journey to the west + Every DC and Marvel plot 



BMaker11 said:

They say the reason Goku doesn't just get kryptonite or instant transmission Superman to a red sun is because it's against his character. He wouldn't try to beat an opponent by exploiting their weakness.

Solution: Vegeta vs. Superman.

What kind of cop out would Screw Attack come up with to make Superman win this one? Because he would most certainly use whatever he could to defeat his opponent. 

Superman Prime isn't affected by kryptonite, and a red sun wouldn't be quick enough to stop Superman Prime from killing Goku (assuming Goku could even get close enough without it physically harming him). 

It's the same reason Superman doesn't wait in the center of a yellow sun for Goku to die of old age. 



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HollyGamer said:
bigtakilla said:

But Gods are only as powerful as they are made by the person creating them. Superman by far surpassed anything that anyone in the DB universe had done.

Because Superman story was Intended for a Story that involve alien and human  , and Dragonball intend to tell a story of man  that surpase the God?

I have read the new literations of Superman that can melt the universe with his eye but , there is no story that involve God there , so when we talk about the strongest entity then it must be God it self, then when we compare who is the strongest then Goku > God (Dragonball Universe)  > His creations  Alien (Frieza, Cell, Superman, etc) > His Creations (Human).

Well then of course if we talk about fictional character then the fictional God is powerless infront of the writer  

Yet again though, all Gods in media are not created equally. 



bigtakilla said:
BMaker11 said:

They say the reason Goku doesn't just get kryptonite or instant transmission Superman to a red sun is because it's against his character. He wouldn't try to beat an opponent by exploiting their weakness.

Solution: Vegeta vs. Superman.

What kind of cop out would Screw Attack come up with to make Superman win this one? Because he would most certainly use whatever he could to defeat his opponent. 

Superman Prime isn't affected by kryptonite, and a red sun wouldn't be quick enough to stop Superman Prime from killing Goku (assuming Goku could even get close enough without it physically harming him). 

It's the same reason Superman doesn't wait in the center of a yellow sun for Goku to die of old age. 

They're not using Superman Prime, though. In fact, they're actually not even consistent with the Superman they are using. They used a composite Superman, despite saying they're restricting him to New 52. That whole "lifting infinity" thing......non-canon. There's no consistency in the continuity of the Superman character, so, ultimately, both death battles don't even make sense. Superman is, essentially, a different person in each incarnation. Screw Attacks ignores that and just puts the best characteristics of each Superman and mashes that into one character. Whereas Goku is just one continuity. Any one Superman (other than Superman Prime), Goku should be able to beat, whether it be an easy battle or a tough one. But when you take the best feats of 5 different versions of Superman, then put that all into one, then the guy is unbeatable, even compared to the actual gods of any given universe. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the ScrewAttack version of Superman could one-shot The One Above All



Azuren said:
I thought this rematch was a few years too early.

Dragon Ball Super is only a few episodes in, and SSG is only the tip of the iceberg of what's to come. They're just going to have to rematch again in a few years to show off what Super Saiyan Ultimate Gorilla God (SSUGG) can do in comparison to a continuously depowered Superman.


OH.

MY.

GOD!

Can you imagine what he'll be capable of once he reaches GREEN HAIR LEVEL?!



BMaker11 said:
bigtakilla said:

Superman Prime isn't affected by kryptonite, and a red sun wouldn't be quick enough to stop Superman Prime from killing Goku (assuming Goku could even get close enough without it physically harming him). 

It's the same reason Superman doesn't wait in the center of a yellow sun for Goku to die of old age. 

They're not using Superman Prime, though. In fact, they're actually not even consistent with the Superman they are using. They used a composite Superman, despite saying they're restricting him to New 52. That whole "lifting infinity" thing......non-canon. There's no consistency in the continuity of the Superman character, so, ultimately, both death battles don't even make sense. Superman is, essentially, a different person in each incarnation. Screw Attacks ignores that and just puts the best characteristics of each Superman and mashes that into one character. Whereas Goku is just one continuity. Any one Superman (other than Superman Prime), Goku should be able to beat, whether it be an easy battle or a tough one. But when you take the best feats of 5 different versions of Superman, then put that all into one, then the guy is unbeatable, even compared to the actual gods of any given universe. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the ScrewAttack version of Superman could one-shot The One Above All

Pretty sure Red Son Superman could destroy Goku quite finely, considering his personality.

All Star Superman is basically a no brainer for smudging Goku five ways from Sunday. 

 

What a character should or should not be able to do is NOT up for the debate of the fans. The discussion is fine and dandy and it's all in good fun that we annoy one another with these types of things...but it always comes down to preferences. 

 

Also, to whoever says Goku was supposed to be limitless: learn your DB and your DB background story. Goku was never meant to be reach beyond Frieza. Heck, he was never supposed to be some planet cracking super god. But fans demanded it, Toriyama was all too happy for the money, and here we are, with Cyan Hair Goku. 



JinxRake said:
BMaker11 said:

They're not using Superman Prime, though. In fact, they're actually not even consistent with the Superman they are using. They used a composite Superman, despite saying they're restricting him to New 52. That whole "lifting infinity" thing......non-canon. There's no consistency in the continuity of the Superman character, so, ultimately, both death battles don't even make sense. Superman is, essentially, a different person in each incarnation. Screw Attacks ignores that and just puts the best characteristics of each Superman and mashes that into one character. Whereas Goku is just one continuity. Any one Superman (other than Superman Prime), Goku should be able to beat, whether it be an easy battle or a tough one. But when you take the best feats of 5 different versions of Superman, then put that all into one, then the guy is unbeatable, even compared to the actual gods of any given universe. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the ScrewAttack version of Superman could one-shot The One Above All

Pretty sure Red Son Superman could destroy Goku quite finely, considering his personality.

All Star Superman is basically a no brainer for smudging Goku five ways from Sunday. 

 

What a character should or should not be able to do is NOT up for the debate of the fans. The discussion is fine and dandy and it's all in good fun that we annoy one another with these types of things...but it always comes down to preferences. 

 

Also, to whoever says Goku was supposed to be limitless: learn your DB and your DB background story. Goku was never meant to be reach beyond Frieza. Heck, he was never supposed to be some planet cracking super god. But fans demanded it, Toriyama was all too happy for the money, and here we are, with Cyan Hair Goku. 

"What a character should or should not be able to do is NOT up for the debate of the fans."

Irony is so ironic.

Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster (original creators of Superman) died in 1992 and 1996 respectively, by your way of thinking, all Superman canon after their deaths is not permissible.  Goku wins.