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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 20 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:

I really don't pay too attention of what Reggie saying, but i was very paying attention what were Iwata and Miyamoto saying.

Ok you buying Nintendo console at least 4 that games, you already have 3 of them and you will certainly have Zelda too, only Zelda probably will have port on next console too and you will have best experience on Wii U, TP GameCube version was better than Wii.

Wii U will be worst selling Nintendo console ever, so understand if one of most ambitious and biggest Nintendo game will be ported on next console espacialy after Wii U fail when they need very strong launch. But I would be furious if Wii U owners dont get new Zelda game at all, but that's not gonna be a case.

Thats fine if you weren't paying attention to Reggie but at least now you know what he said

I would highly argue that the TP on the gamecube was certainly not the best experience... I mean, the fact that TP on the wii was 16:9 vs GC's 4:3 already makes the wii version a lot better since I don't have to deal with blackbars on the side of my TV as well as some aspects of the motion controls is also very enjoyable. Plus the GC people had to wait an entire month to get their hands on it which is 110% nonsense

Oh and 3/4 games on console that will never have games like Paper Mario or Metroid or Pokemon or Fire Emblem and etc is Not a good thing at all.

And there is nothing to understand... Its not my fault that Nintendo screwed up the wiiU nor as a consumer should I care about the wiiU's hardware sales.... I am not emotionally invested into the company or anything so why on earth should I care? I care about the games and what I am getting in return for my investment on the console and launching the game on the NX at the sametime as the wiiU if not earlier would devalue my purchase because it is one less reason for me to ever have gotten a wiiU. What I as a consumer should care is about what they promised which again, is going back to the exclusivity aspect because I bought a wiiU for the exclusives which they promised... I don't care who said it, whether it be Iwata or Miyamoto or Reggie cause they are all in this together and they all represent Nintendo. If Reggie lied, than he misslead me which falls back on Nintendo

I understand that this is their biggest Zelda yet but I also know that Zelda will sell a lot software even if it is wiiU exclusive and it will be profitable regardless. There is no reason why they can't have another big game as a launch title for the NX and make both the wiiU and the NX fans happy. And if they port Zelda U to the NX a couple of years later, the NX won't be missing out on anything. Yes, the NX would be having a better launch if Zelda U was for it as well but I certainly won't be apart of that launch if they do it.



                  

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traveler72 on 20 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:
traveler72 said:

But that doesn't negate the increased sales for the first months of the year, and splatoon seems to have a better lasting impact than MK.

Of Course not, but Mario Kart made big difference last year. Splatoon have better impact only in Japan, Mario Kart had much stronger impact in US and Europe.

Mario kart kept sales at around 60k per week during july and august, this year won't be much different but will actually have a big september release, hopefully along a pricecut.



Miyamotoo on 21 July 2015
Captain_Yuri said:
Miyamotoo said:

I really don't pay too attention of what Reggie saying, but i was very paying attention what were Iwata and Miyamoto saying.

Ok you buying Nintendo console at least 4 that games, you already have 3 of them and you will certainly have Zelda too, only Zelda probably will have port on next console too and you will have best experience on Wii U, TP GameCube version was better than Wii.

Wii U will be worst selling Nintendo console ever, so understand if one of most ambitious and biggest Nintendo game will be ported on next console espacialy after Wii U fail when they need very strong launch. But I would be furious if Wii U owners dont get new Zelda game at all, but that's not gonna be a case.

Thats fine if you weren't paying attention to Reggie but at least now you know what he said

I would highly argue that the TP on the gamecube was certainly not the best experience... I mean, the fact that TP on the wii was 16:9 vs GC's 4:3 already makes the wii version a lot better since I don't have to deal with blackbars on the side of my TV as well as some aspects of the motion controls is also very enjoyable. Plus the GC people had to wait an entire month to get their hands on it which is 110% nonsense

Oh and 3/4 games on console that will never have games like Paper Mario or Metroid or Pokemon or Fire Emblem and etc is Not a good thing at all.

And there is nothing to understand... Its not my fault that Nintendo screwed up the wiiU nor as a consumer should I care about the wiiU's hardware sales.... I am not emotionally invested into the company or anything so why on earth should I care? I care about the games and what I am getting in return for my investment on the console and launching the game on the NX at the sametime as the wiiU if not earlier would devalue my purchase because it is one less reason for me to ever have gotten a wiiU. What I as a consumer should care is about what they promised which again, is going back to the exclusivity aspect because I bought a wiiU for the exclusives which they promised... I don't care who said it, whether it be Iwata or Miyamoto or Reggie cause they are all in this together and they all represent Nintendo. If Reggie lied, than he misslead me which falls back on Nintendo

I understand that this is their biggest Zelda yet but I also know that Zelda will sell a lot software even if it is wiiU exclusive and it will be profitable regardless. There is no reason why they can't have another big game as a launch title for the NX and make both the wiiU and the NX fans happy. And if they port Zelda U to the NX a couple of years later, the NX won't be missing out on anything. Yes, the NX would be having a better launch if Zelda U was for it as well but I certainly won't be apart of that launch if they do it.

I played only TP Wii version but wide opinion is that GC version is better, mainly because of controls. What exactly would Zelda U on NX make for better experience than on Wii U!? I can not think of anything that would NX Zelda seemed a better experience than Zelda U.

3/4 games yes, you maybe will not have Metroid or Pokemon or Fire Emblem, but you have Yoshi, Star Fox, Pikmin...games that Wii didn't had.

I think you making big deal if Zelda U gets NX port, you sound as if Nintendo will not release at all Zelda for the Wii U, and certainly you will not enjoy less in Zelda U on Wii U if we have NX port too.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 21 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Thats fine if you weren't paying attention to Reggie but at least now you know what he said

I would highly argue that the TP on the gamecube was certainly not the best experience... I mean, the fact that TP on the wii was 16:9 vs GC's 4:3 already makes the wii version a lot better since I don't have to deal with blackbars on the side of my TV as well as some aspects of the motion controls is also very enjoyable. Plus the GC people had to wait an entire month to get their hands on it which is 110% nonsense

Oh and 3/4 games on console that will never have games like Paper Mario or Metroid or Pokemon or Fire Emblem and etc is Not a good thing at all.

And there is nothing to understand... Its not my fault that Nintendo screwed up the wiiU nor as a consumer should I care about the wiiU's hardware sales.... I am not emotionally invested into the company or anything so why on earth should I care? I care about the games and what I am getting in return for my investment on the console and launching the game on the NX at the sametime as the wiiU if not earlier would devalue my purchase because it is one less reason for me to ever have gotten a wiiU. What I as a consumer should care is about what they promised which again, is going back to the exclusivity aspect because I bought a wiiU for the exclusives which they promised... I don't care who said it, whether it be Iwata or Miyamoto or Reggie cause they are all in this together and they all represent Nintendo. If Reggie lied, than he misslead me which falls back on Nintendo

I understand that this is their biggest Zelda yet but I also know that Zelda will sell a lot software even if it is wiiU exclusive and it will be profitable regardless. There is no reason why they can't have another big game as a launch title for the NX and make both the wiiU and the NX fans happy. And if they port Zelda U to the NX a couple of years later, the NX won't be missing out on anything. Yes, the NX would be having a better launch if Zelda U was for it as well but I certainly won't be apart of that launch if they do it.

I played only TP Wii version but wide opinion is that GC version is better, mainly because of controls. What exactly would Zelda U on NX make for better experience than on Wii U!? I can not think of anything that would NX Zelda seemed a better experience than Zelda U.

3/4 games yes, you maybe will not have Metroid or Pokemon or Fire Emblem, but you have Yoshi, Star Fox, Pikmin...games that Wii didn't had.

I think you making big deal if Zelda U gets NX port, you sound as if Nintendo will not release at all Zelda for the Wii U, and certainly you will not enjoy less in Zelda U on Wii U if we have NX port too.

Well perhaps the graphics on the NX will be better or perhaps the controller on the NX will be better. And heck, if they release it a month early for the NX, it would already make it better. We don't know yet for obvious reasons but its easy enough to speculate that the NX will be more powerful than the wiiU at the very least

And yes, the wii didn't have Yoshi, Starfox and Pikmin but if we are going by popular opinion, we would rather have Pokemon, Metroid or Fire Emblem than Yoshi, Starfox or Pikmin anyday of the week.

And yes I will if the NX is more powerful than the wiiU which leads it to have better graphics or if the NX gets it a month earlier than the wiiU owners will. And it is a big deal cause the wiiU wont be worth it until it gets enough note worthy exclusives and not having an exclusive Zelda while missing games like Pokemon, Metroid and etc really does make the wiiU significantly less valuable purchase



                  

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Miyamotoo on 21 July 2015
Captain_Yuri said:
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Thats fine if you weren't paying attention to Reggie but at least now you know what he said

I would highly argue that the TP on the gamecube was certainly not the best experience... I mean, the fact that TP on the wii was 16:9 vs GC's 4:3 already makes the wii version a lot better since I don't have to deal with blackbars on the side of my TV as well as some aspects of the motion controls is also very enjoyable. Plus the GC people had to wait an entire month to get their hands on it which is 110% nonsense

Oh and 3/4 games on console that will never have games like Paper Mario or Metroid or Pokemon or Fire Emblem and etc is Not a good thing at all.

And there is nothing to understand... Its not my fault that Nintendo screwed up the wiiU nor as a consumer should I care about the wiiU's hardware sales.... I am not emotionally invested into the company or anything so why on earth should I care? I care about the games and what I am getting in return for my investment on the console and launching the game on the NX at the sametime as the wiiU if not earlier would devalue my purchase because it is one less reason for me to ever have gotten a wiiU. What I as a consumer should care is about what they promised which again, is going back to the exclusivity aspect because I bought a wiiU for the exclusives which they promised... I don't care who said it, whether it be Iwata or Miyamoto or Reggie cause they are all in this together and they all represent Nintendo. If Reggie lied, than he misslead me which falls back on Nintendo

I understand that this is their biggest Zelda yet but I also know that Zelda will sell a lot software even if it is wiiU exclusive and it will be profitable regardless. There is no reason why they can't have another big game as a launch title for the NX and make both the wiiU and the NX fans happy. And if they port Zelda U to the NX a couple of years later, the NX won't be missing out on anything. Yes, the NX would be having a better launch if Zelda U was for it as well but I certainly won't be apart of that launch if they do it.

I played only TP Wii version but wide opinion is that GC version is better, mainly because of controls. What exactly would Zelda U on NX make for better experience than on Wii U!? I can not think of anything that would NX Zelda seemed a better experience than Zelda U.

3/4 games yes, you maybe will not have Metroid or Pokemon or Fire Emblem, but you have Yoshi, Star Fox, Pikmin...games that Wii didn't had.

I think you making big deal if Zelda U gets NX port, you sound as if Nintendo will not release at all Zelda for the Wii U, and certainly you will not enjoy less in Zelda U on Wii U if we have NX port too.

Well perhaps the graphics on the NX will be better or perhaps the controller on the NX will be better. And heck, if they release it a month early for the NX, it would already make it better. We don't know yet for obvious reasons but its easy enough to speculate that the NX will be more powerful than the wiiU at the very least

And yes, the wii didn't have Yoshi, Starfox and Pikmin but if we are going by popular opinion, we would rather have Pokemon, Metroid or Fire Emblem than Yoshi, Starfox or Pikmin anyday of the week.

And yes I will if the NX is more powerful than the wiiU which leads it to have better graphics or if the NX gets it a month earlier than the wiiU owners will. And it is a big deal cause the wiiU wont be worth it until it gets enough note worthy exclusives and not having an exclusive Zelda while missing games like Pokemon, Metroid and etc is a big deal

In case of NX port you can bet that certainly will not be any graphic update, Nintendo never do that, it would be simple port maybe with new controls. Wii U gamepad is great, especially for Zelda like game, I think in WW HD was used perfectly. Only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX.

Funy, for me Yoshi, Star Fox and Pikmin are better franchises than Pokemon and Fire Emblem.

Like I wrote, Zelda on NX would be simply port, not upgrade or difrent version in any case beside controllers (because we don't know what control will have NX), only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX. One port and game that will not be exclusive don't change anything really. You really cant expect that every Nintendo console have game from every Nintendo franchise, for example on Wii U we have Yoshi, StarFox and Pikmin...but will not have some other games.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 21 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well perhaps the graphics on the NX will be better or perhaps the controller on the NX will be better. And heck, if they release it a month early for the NX, it would already make it better. We don't know yet for obvious reasons but its easy enough to speculate that the NX will be more powerful than the wiiU at the very least

And yes, the wii didn't have Yoshi, Starfox and Pikmin but if we are going by popular opinion, we would rather have Pokemon, Metroid or Fire Emblem than Yoshi, Starfox or Pikmin anyday of the week.

And yes I will if the NX is more powerful than the wiiU which leads it to have better graphics or if the NX gets it a month earlier than the wiiU owners will. And it is a big deal cause the wiiU wont be worth it until it gets enough note worthy exclusives and not having an exclusive Zelda while missing games like Pokemon, Metroid and etc is a big deal

In case of NX port you can bet that certainly will not be any graphic update, Nintendo never do that, it would be simple port maybe with new controls. Wii U gamepad is great, especially for Zelda like game, I think in WW HD was used perfectly. Only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX.

Funy, for me Yoshi, Star Fox and Pikmin are better franchises than Pokemon and Fire Emblem.

Like I wrote, Zelda on NX would be simply port, not upgrade version in any case beside controllers (because we don't know what control will have NX), only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX. One port and game that will not be exclusive don't change anything really. You really cant expect that every Nintendo console have game from every Nintendo franchise, for example on Wii U we have Yoshi, StarFox and Pikmin...but will not have some other games.

How so... You do realize that going from 4:3 to 16:9 is a graphical upgrade right? My widescreen TV sure is thankful that it doesn't have to have black bars...

For me, I would trade all 3 for metroid alone let alone Pokemon and Fire Emblem

Your right... I don't... I only expect the ones that are expected which are the ones that I already mentioned... See, my issue is that without Zelda being wiiU exclusive, I could have easily skipped the wiiU and saved $350+ and not really regretted that decision at all...

Yoshi... Neh
Starfox... After that e3 trailer, I am gonna skip
Pikmin... The only reason I even have it was cause of Mario Kart 8 free game deal
MK8... I can live without
SSB4.... I can live without
3d World... I can live without
XCX... Thats a real must have
SMT x FE... Real Must have
FFV... Yea real must have
Splatoon... Yes and No
New Super Luigi U... Meh
Bayonetta 2... Real Must Have
W101... Got it only as a gift
Hyrule Warriors.... Can live without

Don't think I am forgetting anything and of course, that is imo

Now if we put Zelda in there exclusively, it really does make the wiiU a lot more enticing cause as you said, it is the biggest Zelda yet but if its get ported to the NX... Then I really could have skipped the wiiU and only really missed a few "must have" games. And the reality is... You don't know whether or not this will be a simple port... The wii version had 16:9 and it had motion controls which makes the game a lot more than a simple port. Take away the amount of time it takes to implement motion controls and suddenly, Nintendo has time to enhance the graphics or do whatever else with it... And of course, releasing it a month early is a big FU to the wiiU fans who again, won't have an exlcusive zelda game



                  

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Soundwave on 21 July 2015
Captain_Yuri said:
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well perhaps the graphics on the NX will be better or perhaps the controller on the NX will be better. And heck, if they release it a month early for the NX, it would already make it better. We don't know yet for obvious reasons but its easy enough to speculate that the NX will be more powerful than the wiiU at the very least

And yes, the wii didn't have Yoshi, Starfox and Pikmin but if we are going by popular opinion, we would rather have Pokemon, Metroid or Fire Emblem than Yoshi, Starfox or Pikmin anyday of the week.

And yes I will if the NX is more powerful than the wiiU which leads it to have better graphics or if the NX gets it a month earlier than the wiiU owners will. And it is a big deal cause the wiiU wont be worth it until it gets enough note worthy exclusives and not having an exclusive Zelda while missing games like Pokemon, Metroid and etc is a big deal

In case of NX port you can bet that certainly will not be any graphic update, Nintendo never do that, it would be simple port maybe with new controls. Wii U gamepad is great, especially for Zelda like game, I think in WW HD was used perfectly. Only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX.

Funy, for me Yoshi, Star Fox and Pikmin are better franchises than Pokemon and Fire Emblem.

Like I wrote, Zelda on NX would be simply port, not upgrade version in any case beside controllers (because we don't know what control will have NX), only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX. One port and game that will not be exclusive don't change anything really. You really cant expect that every Nintendo console have game from every Nintendo franchise, for example on Wii U we have Yoshi, StarFox and Pikmin...but will not have some other games.

How so... You do realize that going from 4:3 to 16:9 is a graphical upgrade right? My widescreen TV sure is thankful that it doesn't have to have black bars...

For me, I would trade all 3 for metroid alone let alone Pokemon and Fire Emblem

Your right... I don't... I only expect the ones that are expected which are the ones that I already mentioned... See, my issue is that without Zelda being wiiU exclusive, I could have easily skipped the wiiU and saved $350+ and not really regretted that decision at all...

Yoshi... Neh
Starfox... After that e3 trailer, I am gonna skip
Pikmin... The only reason I even have it was cause of Mario Kart 8 free game deal
MK8... I can live without
SSB4.... I can live without
3d World... I can live without
XCX... Thats a real must have
SMT x FE... Real Must have
FFV... Yea real must have
Splatoon... Yes and No
New Super Luigi U... Meh
Bayonetta 2... Real Must Have
W101... Got it only as a gift
Hyrule Warriors.... Can live without

Don't think I am forgetting anything and of course, that is imo

Now if we put Zelda in there exclusively, it really does make the wiiU a lot more enticing cause as you said, it is the biggest Zelda yet but if its get ported to the NX... Then I really could have skipped the wiiU and only really missed a few "must have" games. And the reality is... You don't know whether or not this will be a simple port... The wii version had 16:9 and it had motion controls which makes the game a lot more than a simple port. Take away the amount of time it takes to implement motion controls and suddenly, Nintendo has time to enhance the graphics or do whatever else with it... And of course, releasing it a month early is a big FU to the wiiU fans who again, won't have an exlcusive zelda game


If Mario Kart/Smash/3D Mario are things you can live without, then really you were taking a risk in buying a Wii U in the first place. Everyone knows they haven't had good third party support for like 20 years now, so lets not act all shocked at that. 

Like I'm sorry you don't like the system, but from the sounds of it, you don't like a lot of the core Nintendo IP anyway, yet you were buying a Nintendo system. It's kind of like saying you paid to go to a strip club but then didn't expect there to be nudity. 



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 21 July 2015
Soundwave said:
Captain_Yuri said:

How so... You do realize that going from 4:3 to 16:9 is a graphical upgrade right? My widescreen TV sure is thankful that it doesn't have to have black bars...

For me, I would trade all 3 for metroid alone let alone Pokemon and Fire Emblem

Your right... I don't... I only expect the ones that are expected which are the ones that I already mentioned... See, my issue is that without Zelda being wiiU exclusive, I could have easily skipped the wiiU and saved $350+ and not really regretted that decision at all...

Yoshi... Neh
Starfox... After that e3 trailer, I am gonna skip
Pikmin... The only reason I even have it was cause of Mario Kart 8 free game deal
MK8... I can live without
SSB4.... I can live without
3d World... I can live without
XCX... Thats a real must have
SMT x FE... Real Must have
FFV... Yea real must have
Splatoon... Yes and No
New Super Luigi U... Meh
Bayonetta 2... Real Must Have
W101... Got it only as a gift
Hyrule Warriors.... Can live without

Don't think I am forgetting anything and of course, that is imo

Now if we put Zelda in there exclusively, it really does make the wiiU a lot more enticing cause as you said, it is the biggest Zelda yet but if its get ported to the NX... Then I really could have skipped the wiiU and only really missed a few "must have" games. And the reality is... You don't know whether or not this will be a simple port... The wii version had 16:9 and it had motion controls which makes the game a lot more than a simple port. Take away the amount of time it takes to implement motion controls and suddenly, Nintendo has time to enhance the graphics or do whatever else with it... And of course, releasing it a month early is a big FU to the wiiU fans who again, won't have an exlcusive zelda game


To be honest if you feel that way, but if Mario Kart/Smash/3D Mario are things you can live without, then really you were taking a risk in buying a Wii U in the first place. Everyone knows they haven't had good third party support for like 20 years now, so lets not act all shocked at that. 

Like I'm sorry you don't like the system, but from the sounds of it, you don't like a lot of the core Nintendo IP anyway, yet you were buying a Nintendo system. It's kind of like saying you paid to go to a strip club but then didn't expect there to be nudity. 

Well, living without isn't the samething as not having fun with them/not liking them... Yes, I can live without those games but its not like I don't have those games and/or I don't have fun with them... Its hardly a risk expecting the basic games that have been on various Nintendo platforms to be on another Nintendo platform. And where did you get any ideas about third parties from cause I sure didn't mention anything about them. Even if the wiiU had plenty of third party support, I would still buy third party games on PC rather than on the wiiU. You never seem to stop with this trend of saying things that aren't even part of the conversation.

Again, being able to live without doesn't mean I dont like them or that I can't have fun with them... It just means that if I didn't buy a wiiU, I wont lose my mind by not being able to play them. I don't care much for yoshi, I like starfox but that trailer at e3 was mostly garbage, I don't care much about pikmin 3, and new super mario bros U wasn't as good as I hoped it would be. The rest of them I like and Zelda U exclusivity would make the purchase be justified



                  

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Miyamotoo on 21 July 2015
Captain_Yuri said:
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well perhaps the graphics on the NX will be better or perhaps the controller on the NX will be better. And heck, if they release it a month early for the NX, it would already make it better. We don't know yet for obvious reasons but its easy enough to speculate that the NX will be more powerful than the wiiU at the very least

And yes, the wii didn't have Yoshi, Starfox and Pikmin but if we are going by popular opinion, we would rather have Pokemon, Metroid or Fire Emblem than Yoshi, Starfox or Pikmin anyday of the week.

And yes I will if the NX is more powerful than the wiiU which leads it to have better graphics or if the NX gets it a month earlier than the wiiU owners will. And it is a big deal cause the wiiU wont be worth it until it gets enough note worthy exclusives and not having an exclusive Zelda while missing games like Pokemon, Metroid and etc is a big deal

In case of NX port you can bet that certainly will not be any graphic update, Nintendo never do that, it would be simple port maybe with new controls. Wii U gamepad is great, especially for Zelda like game, I think in WW HD was used perfectly. Only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX.

Funy, for me Yoshi, Star Fox and Pikmin are better franchises than Pokemon and Fire Emblem.

Like I wrote, Zelda on NX would be simply port, not upgrade version in any case beside controllers (because we don't know what control will have NX), only problem I see if indeed Zelda port will be release month earlier on NX. One port and game that will not be exclusive don't change anything really. You really cant expect that every Nintendo console have game from every Nintendo franchise, for example on Wii U we have Yoshi, StarFox and Pikmin...but will not have some other games.

How so... You do realize that going from 4:3 to 16:9 is a graphical upgrade right? My widescreen TV sure is thankful that it doesn't have to have black bars...

For me, I would trade all 3 for metroid alone let alone Pokemon and Fire Emblem

Your right... I don't... I only expect the ones that are expected which are the ones that I already mentioned... See, my issue is that without Zelda being wiiU exclusive, I could have easily skipped the wiiU and saved $350+ and not really regretted that decision at all...

Yoshi... Neh
Starfox... After that e3 trailer, I am gonna skip
Pikmin... The only reason I even have it was cause of Mario Kart 8 free game deal
MK8... I can live without
SSB4.... I can live without
3d World... I can live without
XCX... Thats a real must have
SMT x FE... Real Must have
FFV... Yea real must have
Splatoon... Yes and No
New Super Luigi U... Meh
Bayonetta 2... Real Must Have
W101... Got it only as a gift
Hyrule Warriors.... Can live without

Don't think I am forgetting anything and of course, that is imo

Now if we put Zelda in there exclusively, it really does make the wiiU a lot more enticing cause as you said, it is the biggest Zelda yet but if its get ported to the NX... Then I really could have skipped the wiiU and only really missed a few "must have" games. And the reality is... You don't know whether or not this will be a simple port... The wii version had 16:9 and it had motion controls which makes the game a lot more than a simple port. Take away the amount of time it takes to implement motion controls and suddenly, Nintendo has time to enhance the graphics or do whatever else with it... And of course, releasing it a month early is a big FU to the wiiU fans who again, won't have an exlcusive zelda game

4:3 and 16:9 isn't really graphical upgrade, its only 16:9 support that make sense only if you had 16:9 TV in 2006.

You skipped some games: NSMBU, Lego City, Zelda WW HD, DKTF, Captain Toad, Super Mario Maker...Wii U have good number of great games (certainly you are not interesting in all of them), so its very odd to me that Zelda not being exclusive game for Wii U is such a big changer for you.

Like @SoundWave wrote in his post above,"Like I'm sorry you don't like the system, but from the sounds of it, you don't like a lot of the core Nintendo IP anyway, yet you were buying a Nintendo system."

Like I wrote, I 100% certain that Zelda U port for NX will be simply port with new controls, nothing more nothing less, certainly no any graphic upgrade. Also TP was simply port with Motion Controls.




Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 21 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Captain_Yuri said:

How so... You do realize that going from 4:3 to 16:9 is a graphical upgrade right? My widescreen TV sure is thankful that it doesn't have to have black bars...

For me, I would trade all 3 for metroid alone let alone Pokemon and Fire Emblem

Your right... I don't... I only expect the ones that are expected which are the ones that I already mentioned... See, my issue is that without Zelda being wiiU exclusive, I could have easily skipped the wiiU and saved $350+ and not really regretted that decision at all...

Yoshi... Neh
Starfox... After that e3 trailer, I am gonna skip
Pikmin... The only reason I even have it was cause of Mario Kart 8 free game deal
MK8... I can live without
SSB4.... I can live without
3d World... I can live without
XCX... Thats a real must have
SMT x FE... Real Must have
FFV... Yea real must have
Splatoon... Yes and No
New Super Luigi U... Meh
Bayonetta 2... Real Must Have
W101... Got it only as a gift
Hyrule Warriors.... Can live without

Don't think I am forgetting anything and of course, that is imo

Now if we put Zelda in there exclusively, it really does make the wiiU a lot more enticing cause as you said, it is the biggest Zelda yet but if its get ported to the NX... Then I really could have skipped the wiiU and only really missed a few "must have" games. And the reality is... You don't know whether or not this will be a simple port... The wii version had 16:9 and it had motion controls which makes the game a lot more than a simple port. Take away the amount of time it takes to implement motion controls and suddenly, Nintendo has time to enhance the graphics or do whatever else with it... And of course, releasing it a month early is a big FU to the wiiU fans who again, won't have an exlcusive zelda game

4:3 and 16:9 isn't really graphical update, its only 16:9 support that make sense only if you had 16:9 TV in 2006.

You skipped some games: NSMBU, Lego City, Zelda WW HD, DKTF, Captain Toad, Super Mario Maker...Wii U have very big number of great games, certainly you are not interesting in all of them, so its very odd to me that Zelda not being exclusive game for Wii U is such a big changer for you.

Like @SoundWave wrote in his post above,"Like I'm sorry you don't like the system, but from the sounds of it, you don't like a lot of the core Nintendo IP anyway, yet you were buying a Nintendo system."

Like I said, I 100% certain that Zelda U port for NX will be simply port with new controls, nothing more nothing less, certainly no any graphic update. Also TP was simply port with Motion Controls.

Well I didn't buy a wii at launch cause it was soooo out of stock but by the time I did, we have a 16:9 TV plus everyone knew that 16:9 was going to be the future anyway and it really made quite a big difference playing at 16:9 as opposed to 4:3 on a 16:9 TV

Oh yea, forgot about those

Lego... Don't care
NSMBU... Falls under NSLU
WWHD... Come now, dolphin is still a thing
DKTF... Real Must have
Captain Toad... Skip
Super Mario Maker... Well, there are alternatives on PC so I will say Yes and No

And Zelda being exclusive is a big deal because it is the biggest and certainly the most ambitious Zelda game yet... You combine that with the Real Must haves and the games that I like which are the ones that I state (Can Live without) if you read the previous reply to soundwave, you get a pretty good justified library only then

And here is what I replied to soundwave:

"Well, living without isn't the samething as not having fun with them/not liking them... Yes, I can live without those games but its not like I don't have those games and/or I don't have fun with them... Its hardly a risk expecting the basic games that have been on various Nintendo platforms to be on another Nintendo platform. And where did you get any ideas about third parties from cause I sure didn't mention anything about them. Even if the wiiU had plenty of third party support, I would still buy third party games on PC rather than on the wiiU. You never seem to stop with this trend of saying things that aren't even part of the conversation.

Again, being able to live without doesn't mean I dont like them or that I can't have fun with them... It just means that if I didn't buy a wiiU, I wont lose my mind by not being able to play them. I don't care much for yoshi, I like starfox but that trailer at e3 was mostly garbage, I don't care much about pikmin 3, and new super mario bros U wasn't as good as I hoped it would be. The rest of them I like and Zelda U exclusivity would make the purchase be justified"

And how can you be 100% sure? Do you work for Nintendo? Cause I am 100% sure that you don't regardless of what your username might suggest or else you would have better things to do than to talk with a random pervert on the internet. The reality is you don't and the fact that the wii version was more than a simple port also suggests otherwise unless you want to cherry pick



                  

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