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Lawlight said:
DJEVOLVE said:


Recore, and I will  update you at gamescom, however your arguement has lost all it's merit.


When you update me at gamescom, then you can invalidate my argument. In the meantime, we got a year of MS not releasing any first party game.


What year is that? Every year I see has exclusives coming out, are you living in a bubble?



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I'll be honest, the reason that MS is and always have been so great at making money is because they're willing to make painful cuts like this before the company starts to bleed cash from areas.

It's tough on those who lost their jobs but MS remaining the profitable giant that it is globally is far more important to global economy imo.



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Guys this is MS we are talking about, they print and swim in money. This is cheap change for them.

But in all seriousness, I feel bad for the people that lost their jobs. The mobile business is just too competitive and one wrong move (or mostly right move by the competition) can lead to this, even for the biggest of companies.



DJEVOLVE said:
Lawlight said:


When you update me at gamescom, then you can invalidate my argument. In the meantime, we got a year of MS not releasing any first party game.


What year is that? Every year I see has exclusives coming out, are you living in a bubble?

 

I agree! Now all they need to do is unbundle Kinect, release Titanfall and do a price drop and sales will turn around.



DJEVOLVE said:
Lawlight said:


When you update me at gamescom, then you can invalidate my argument. In the meantime, we got a year of MS not releasing any first party game.


What year is that? Every year I see has exclusives coming out, are you living in a bubble?


Really? I'm still waiting for their exclusive this year.



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Lawlight said:

Sony, we all know, takes a lot of risks.

What risk?  Sony taking risk are you kidding me.  If you said Nintendo I would definitely agree but Sony?  Naw Sony is never that big of a risk taker at all and if anything they have taken what others have done and added a few twist but only after those products were successful.



Machiavellian said:
Lawlight said:

Sony, we all know, takes a lot of risks.

What risk?  Sony taking risk are you kidding me.  If you said Nintendo I would definitely agree but Sony?  Naw Sony is never that big of a risk taker at all and if anything they have taken what others have done and added a few twist but only after those products were successful.


Oh, I dunno - new IPs maybe?

And sure, Nintedo takes risk with games like Splatoon - a multiplayer shooter (who ever heard of that?) or Mario Maker (a platformer where you create your own levels!!). Those definitely aren't games where they take what others have done and added a new twist.



Machiavellian said:
Lawlight said:

Sony, we all know, takes a lot of risks.

What risk?  Sony taking risk are you kidding me.  If you said Nintendo I would definitely agree but Sony?  Naw Sony is never that big of a risk taker at all and if anything they have taken what others have done and added a few twist but only after those products were successful.

Are we talking about the same Sony?

Disc (PSX)
First to really focus on 3D (Sega Saturn changed for that reason)
First to have a hard drive
Eye Toy (first motion controls in consoles)
PS3 Hardware (Cell, Bluray, etc)



Lawlight said:
Machiavellian said:

What risk?  Sony taking risk are you kidding me.  If you said Nintendo I would definitely agree but Sony?  Naw Sony is never that big of a risk taker at all and if anything they have taken what others have done and added a few twist but only after those products were successful.


Oh, I dunno - new IPs maybe?

And sure, Nintedo takes risk with games like Splatoon - a multiplayer shooter (who ever heard of that?) or Mario Maker (a platformer where you create your own levels!!). Those definitely aren't games where they take what others have done and added a new twist.

All the console makers have new IPs.  Also all of the Console makers have tried and true sequels as well.  New IP is not a risk if it rely on the same gameplay we have seen for years but with better graphics.  I would hardly call that a risk.

Having a completly new control system for your console is taking a risk.  Not following what your competitors do and do your own thing even if it fails is taking a risk.  Just creating content that has already been established and calling it new is not risk taking.



Machiavellian said:

Having a completly new control system for your console is taking a risk.  Not following what your competitors do and do your own thing even if it fails is taking a risk.  Just creating content that has already been established and calling it new is not risk taking.


So your saying Sony does take risks?