dude, i literally said that in my last sentence. in fact, my whole last paragraph was about who won e3. you need to actually read the posts youre responding to. lol.

Even if you wrote this, you obviously need someone to remind you of it, since you've been going on and on and on about how Sony didn't announce anything new for the rest of the year and the holiday 2015. 

Now that you mentioned it at the end of this comment of yours, does it mean you are confirming that you were so far simply pushing your usual agenda in the rest of your other comments here? 

uhhhh... What's here to argue?

Sony is outselling the next competition 2:1, fact.
Sony won E3 2015 in the public opinion, fact.
Sony has more exclusive games coming out in 2015 (yes, I am including Indies), fact.


What's there to argue exactly...

According to 15% of the internet their conference was just meh.

Heh.. PS4 has the best release schedule of a home console in 2015 and it's not even close, even if it's true that Sony is relying on third parties (not multiplats) for a big chunk of the year (Nintendo's best games this year are also third party IMO). I'm not sure why you'd include Neptunia VII and not ToZ even though only the latter is actually confirmed (Nep could be early 2016 only, unfortunately). Shame some people only play what the big marketers want them to play but that's their loss, if what they prefer is complaining about bugs, dlc and missing content on the big games that they supposedly love and hate at the same time. The whole thing is strangely reminiscent of social smoking. I guess that's what a lot of gamers do these days; game-social-smoking.
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what good is pushing an agenda? do you think im out here actually believing that im just going to talk shit on anythign sony does and its going to change people's minds? of course i dont think that because that is completely unreasonable. im simply stating what i thought of the e3 conference. in my view, sony doesnt win by showing games (that are highly suspect in themselves might i add, ive already kind of detailed that in earlier posts) that are going to be released sometime.. maybe.. in the future. some time. do you see what im saying? thats why i was talking about 2015. 

you know, it seems like no matter how much explaining i can do as to why the lack of content in 2015 relates to the e3 conference, youre jsut going to shut me out and not listen anyway. so maybe we should just end this dialogue between eachother now.

I like how Sony has higher percentages in both games lineup and best conference than they have in best overall

Whatever you say. But you're not fooling anyone who knows your history here. 

Your opinion in a nutshell: Sony can't have won E3 because they have nothing to win holiday 2015, and the rest is suspect because I say so. Anything to discredit most of what they've announced is fine because it suits my narrative.

My reaction: Both the E3 and holiday 2015 don't necessarily have to go hand in hand.

But I'm the one who isn't listening, of course.

They had something for this fall that they could have announced, you know what they did with that? They announced it a week before the show, apparently a huge mistake because now people are acting like it doesn't exist or that Sony not showing it at the conference makes that conference horrible. TLG doesn't look like it changed much because it was never actually running on PS3 hardware, the footage shown in 09 was running at a couple FPS and then sped up for the trailer. Yes the FF VII Remake trailer had no gameplay, just like the ReCore trailer had no gameplay, just like Star Fox last year didn't have any gameplay or SMTxFE when it was originally announced, CG trailers aren't great (though the FF VII trailer was awesomely done) but in this case it's the simple fact that this exists that makes it such a massive announcement. And I'm not going to discuss the whole freaking Shenmue situation again, suffice to say that I'm sick of people trying to bash Sony for actually helping to make it happen instead of bashing everyone else for not doing anything in the last 14 years.

And I don't have to ask myself what they are giving me cause I know that, yes like I said Sonys first party output in 2015 is slim (though I'm still getting the UC Collection and Rime as well as NMS and Persona 5 this year, all of which have at least some sort of exclusivity on PS) but starting 2016 the whole situation looks extremely different with SFV, UC4 and R&C coming in the first half of the year and Horizon, TLG and GT7 also looking at a 2016 release. There's also smaller games like Dreams and Rigs (though that's likely Morpheus exclusive) that are 2016 as well. All of those are just the already confirmed games, so I don't see how Sony didn't give us anything solid or concrete, even if that stuff is a little farther away. Even Shenmue 3 already has a release window they are aiming at (late 2017), FFVII Remake is literally the only announcement from the conference where there is no solid information of at least a release window of the game.

I'm surprised Sony doesn't have a higher percentage.