enlightenedmaster said:
wikipedia isn't a source stop bullshitting |
It is a source. Vgchartz has been known to be quite off with software before. Anyway that's fine, if you don't want to believe it, don't!
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Liftime Sales | |||
| around 7 million | 144 | 46.45% | |
| around 12million | 126 | 40.65% | |
| around 15million | 38 | 12.26% | |
| Total: | 308 | ||
enlightenedmaster said:
wikipedia isn't a source stop bullshitting |
It is a source. Vgchartz has been known to be quite off with software before. Anyway that's fine, if you don't want to believe it, don't!
enlightenedmaster said:
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I asked single platform and you gave me multiplatform sales.Several franchises you've listed have relied on multiplatform sales to cross 10 million. Uncharted will not benefit from multiplatform release so you can't compare the likes of Ass Creed and Fifa sales on all the platforms to project 10 million for UC4 on PS4. We don't know what games VGC has added digital sales to, and more than likely this site only adds digital sales when it's a known quantity, like download code bundled with hardware. It can't count digital sales from people who already own the hardware, unless VGC uses an estimate which facotrs in genre and platform and applies a % of physical which has been derived from some industry data. It is possible that there is industry data out there which can be used to get a rough estimate of digital sales on consoles, because these days publishers seem to include digital sales % in quarterly reports. But AFAIK VGC is not doing this across all games.
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| enlightenedmaster said:
and PS4 bundling and remember PS4 price-cut in fall 2015 and PS4 SLIM in 2016 |
The first 3 Uncharted games sold a total of 21m... 15m is not even a reasonable prediction to consider for UC4 at this point. Anything over 10m is also very unlikely.
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enlightenedmaster said:
most likely it will
LAST of US sold more than 10million,7million in the first year itself
UNCHARTED is going to be SONY's main franchise and they will market the hell out of it it will easily so 7million in the first 6months and around 8-9million first year itself also remeber PS4 is far ahead install base and also much much faster growing hardware sales compared to when Uncharted 2 launched on 23million PS3 install base
Plus SONY and PLAYSTATION are in resurgance and all games are selling much much better on PS4 than they ever did on PS3 |
I think you've repeated these statistics enough. Literally thought I just kept refreshing on accident, all the way to page 7 because you've made the same post repeatedly.
Anyway, FW - 2 mill.
Lt - 9.3+
| binary solo said: I am talking data as per VGChartz, plus digital could be a different story. i was mostly talking abt vgchartz sales only Which of those franchises has made it to 10 million on a single platform? Not Fifa, not Ass Creed. Cod, yes because it's Cod. ass creed.......................lmao fifa and assasins has not sold 10million on 1 platform but why does it matter GT sometimes makes it to 10 million but not consistently and it's been a flagship franchise since PS1. GT has almost always sold over 10million or near it GT has had 6 main games, 4 of them have crossed 10million and 1 has come near 10million i say that is pretty damn consistent enough,else ur definition of 'consistently' is different from normal english defintion that other use
it being a flagship franchise since PS1 means nothing in this debate,moreover it damages it as GT and racing games genre has declined big time since then Only 1 out of 5 Halo games has passed 10 million physical. well yes but 2 have come close to 10million TLOU needed a PS4 remaster to reach 10 million, unconfirmed and still only with digital added. TLOU IS a better game than Uncharted. LAST OF US is pretty much confirmed 10milion seller and if release of PS4,itself cud go on and sell 10million on its own if the game is very good the way PS4 hardware and software sales are going
and LAST OF US might be a little more interesting but UNCHARTED is ouright a far bigger franchise Anyway the options are around 7 million and around 12 million, so I went with 7 million because I don't think it will go above 9.5 and below 9.5 means closer to 7 than 12. i agree with that i was gonna add 10million option but editing screwed it up |
| aLkaLiNE said:
Anyway, FW - 2 mill. Lt - 9.3+ |
hehe
people prediction was outright too low and unrealistic
| PenguinZ said:
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it pretty much is
PS4 hardware and software are selling much much faster than PS3 and also all the games are selling 2-3x times on PS4.
We all know SONY had a terrible generation with PS3 on all fronts
UNCHARTED 4 will easily make around 7-9million in its first year alone
Plus SONY marketing will get it to 12million
and EXTENSIVE bundling can get it to 15million pretty easily as PS4 will easily sell over 15-20million consoles for next 3 years
I didn't think UC4 will sell 15million on its own
| binary solo said: I asked single platform and you gave me multiplatform sales. you no where mentioned 'single platform' Several franchises you've listed have relied on multiplatform sales to cross 10 million. yeah but if PS3 was anywhere near PS4's success then
FIFA,ASSASSINS,LAST OF US,FINAL FANTASY cud all easily sell 10million on a single platfrom itself Uncharted will not benefit from multiplatform release so you can't compare the likes of Ass Creed and Fifa sales on all the platforms to project 10 million for UC4 on PS4. it is actually a good thing as Exclusivity benefits from buzz and hype and marketing unlike multiplatform games Also UNCHARTED 4 doesn't really need multi=platfrom to get it to 10million We don't know what games VGC has added digital sales to, and more than likely this site only adds digital sales when it's a known quantity, like download code bundled with hardware. It can't count digital sales from people who already own the hardware, in the past VGC has almost gone on and copied,publishers publicly given sales may it be retail or digital or combined unless VGC uses an estimate which facotrs in genre and platform and applies a % of physical which has been derived from some industry data. VGC does use estimates,whr do you think they get the number from otherwise..................out of their asses?(joking) It is possible that there is industry data out there which can be used to get a rough estimate of digital sales on consoles, because these days publishers seem to include digital sales % in quarterly reports. But AFAIK VGC is not doing this across all games. the way VGC is going with numbers,its not doing anything for any game |
super6646 said:
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no it isn't
i can edit wiki,the way i want and make myself the president of USA and then give it as a source
I am not just relying on VGC data as i know it can be faulty but it can also be sometimes outright accurate
If you were following sales last generation,HALO 3 sales seemed to have stuck on 9million then MICROSOFT had console and bundle discounts all year round and HALO 3 went onto sell 12million.
After that we don't know as the game became old and nobody cared or followed it and MICROSOFT didn't say anything abt it.
As it is,it doesn't matter much as HALO sales over 9million were bundled or cheap $5-20 sales,after 12million even worse than that
its not really abt believing when you have a debate,you are not GOD that you expect everyone to believe you.....................don't be lidicrous