Debate over.

very well said

Not even kind of. My knowlege of my own capacity for violence is one of the reasons I'm against the death penalty. The purpose of the justice system is not to cater to the desires of the greiving.

What's so sad is that you guys could have a good argument when it comes to innocents and corruption in the system, but you focus on morality and the "prison is worse than death" myths instead. If you're trying to make me feel sorry for a guy who planted a rice cooker bomb in front of an 8 year old kid; or a guy who shot up babies and kids at a theater; or a guy who shot church goers based on race, it isn't going to work. My sympathy is 100% for the victims.

There's only one spree killer I have legit sympathy for and it was this guy named Charles, who was the perpetrator of the Texas school shooting in the 60s. Apparently he had a huge tumor in his head and literally could not control his behavior.

There should be a debate on death penalty reform, not "oh man it's so immoral to painlessly inject a guy who shot up a theater full of people trying to enjoy a Batman movie!"

Once again, the death penalty is more expensive than life in prison...

Err...anything above 5% would be considered statistically significant. What exactly are you talking about?

I gave you a bucket of points...you are the one who focused on prison v death

Yes, if somebody kills somebody, then they've not just killed somebody they've put sadness, grief and fear into somebodies parents, children and other families for probably the rest of their life. I'm completely with it that person should be killed for his crime.

Yeah the purpose is to end the state of war the prepetrator has caused against the state. Read the Social Contract - people have three natural rights; the rights to life, liberty, and property. When you murder someone you take away those rights of another person, and therefore have forfeited your own. You enter a "state of war" against the state and the state has to take means to end this state of war.

Also death penalty cases are decided by a jury, not the grieving.

Anyway you kind of insult the victims and their families by saying their emotions shouldn't matter, but the murderer's emotions do matter. Kind of devalues life, just saying.

No one is going to make me believe that giving someone a shot  (syringe not bullet) is more expensive than feeding paying for someone's food, clothes, hygienic products, etc.. for 30-40 years.

A lot of people forget the dead aren't the only victims - they often forget the victims also had families, friends, aspirations, mentors, students, loved ones, etc. etc. Basically by saying their emotions shouldn't matter it borderlines are psychopathic. It's the same mentality the killers had. It scares me.