I am mostly talking about next year but I doubt Tomb Raider will ever surpass Gears or Uncharted inho. Quantum Break right now seems more unique than Tomb Raider from the other two games. Battlefront is mostly multiplayer though...and I want both single and multiplayer heavy games. Right now the best storybased/multiplayer TPS gamers are on their way and Tomb Raider wasnt even in that bracket. Tomb Raiders multiplayer tried soo hard to rip off uncharted and it fell flat on its face. Funny thing is Uncharted 3's multiplayer was good but nowhere near as fun as Uncharted 2 multiplayer. Gears 4 is going to be amazing though, no doubt in the multiplayer. Splatoon? Eh. its unique but no one I know really knows it exists.....hmmmm..maybe later. 

What I saw from Quantum Break looked interesting, specially during gunplay. It feels like they brought the destructible and manipulatable environments of some hack n' slash games into a gun game. The sort-of-puzzle moments in which the game ask you to move stuff to go forward give chance for some interesting gameplay, but I wonder if the obstacles that will be presented will be actual puzzles, instead of just moving obvious things to obvious and predictable places to keep going forward. Would be lovely to have sections that are very hard to solve, "I need to put down the controller for a day because I don't know how to solve this puzzle" kind of hard to solve.

The game is an enimga to me as well. The mystery of that game needs to be unraveled at Gamescom and quickly (Scalebound as well but thats off topic).

Wow...this is utter nonsense. Fairly entertaining. Uncharted is known for its great story, but has a great multiplayer feature which Tomb Raider tried to rip off and failed hard. 

My post said quite clearly that people play uncharterted for the over the top action sequences and story. Those elements aren't in the online portion of the game. That doesn't mean that Uncharted is bad, but that its focus lies elsewhere. Uncharted doesn't want to be just a third person shooter or even a competitive shooter. It wants to tell a story with a very action cinematic experience.

For example: the gameplay we saw at E3 was mostly an epic car sequence where you had to avoid an armoured car that was firing at you. That had little to do with a third person shooter. Uncharted is more than that.

As for why the Wii U failed:

- Bad marketing

- Which led to name confusement with its predecessor

- Too expensive because of weak Yen

- Underpowered compared to PS4 and xbone

- Which led to no third party support on the console

- Outdated gimmick: touchscreens didn't wow people anymore because smartphones were well established at that point in time

Nintendo's games have nothing to do with the Wii U's failure. Except the quantity (which wouldn't be a problem if they had third party support)

I play Uncharted for both gameplay and story. With Uncharted you don't need to choose only one of them because you get them both.

Just because Uncharted does a masterful job at making action scenes seem seamless between scripted events and gameplay that doesn't take away from the gameplay, the gameplay is there and it is outstanding. I love the freedom I have by controlling Nathan, I love that I can play stealth, go meele, take cover, change weapons, pick up shields, use ledges to surprise enemies by hanging, etc. There is a lot of care put in the gameplay for you to feel like you are PLAYING an action film by making transitions seamless between the different actions you can take with Nathan, instead of just feeling that you are watching a film. 

That epic car sequence came after this 2014 trailer that showed a lot of gameplay and a lot of opened spaces:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow2cL-pp6p8

You take your time justifying why people left Nintendo after the Wii by making a long list of possibilities, but then only come up with one sole thing immediately when it comes to Uncharted by claiming as a fact that people didn't keep playing Uncharted multiplayer for a single reason: that the third person shooter gameplay isn't remarkable. That is very convinient of you.

Erm, with action scenes I mean gameplay and not cutscenes. I never said Uncharted didn't have good gameplay.

But strip the story and action sequences away from Uncharted and you end up with the online portion of the game. Which isn't that great and there are definitely better multiplayer games out there (because they focus on it and Uncharted doesn't). I'm sure ND could make a great online shooter if they so desired to.

Well, if that is your opinion perfect, and I do have one as well and makes as much a difference as yours.

The online portion of the game doesn't have the same situations as the single player, the same obstacles, the same level design, the same enemies. It isn't the same. You take away the cutscene and you have an awesome gameplay, you just wouldn't know the context of the situation.

You can't judge how remarkable Uncharted's TPS gameplay is simply by how many people played or not the multiplayer. Just like you can't judge COD's single player campaign just because everyone goes crazy on the multiplayer. Well, I guess that with your line of thinking then COD multiplayer is much better than Splatoon's since an insane amount of people play the shit out of it and Splatoon pales in comparison.

Yeah I agree. With uncharted and gears, you couldnt ask for more.  I am not interested in TR because I found the reboot boring but I am looking forward to see more of QB.

I never said sales were indicative of quality though.

That said, could CoD sell over one million units in less than a month on one console that only managed to sell 9 million units? Maybe, maybe not. Would Splatoon sell well to the PS4/XBONE demographic? Who knows... There is a market there for colorful shooters though, given the fact that PvZ: GW is getting a sequel.

I also never said the TPS elements in Uncharted were bad, just unremarkable. 

For me the best TPS is Splatoon or Battlefront. Those are the games I had the most fun with. Never played Gears though...

And yes, it's my opinion, I don't consider it a universal fact, I can only say that it is true for me.