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ElRhodeo said:
rocketpig said:
ElRhodeo said:
rocketpig said:
Anti-drug people piss me off. What I do in a responsible manner in my private life is nobody's Goddamned business. I'm not hurting anyone but myself and no one has the right to police consenting adults in their own homes.

One of the greatest lines ever spoken was:

"The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins."

Stop telling others what to do. I don't know if people do it out of boredom in their own lives, because they have a religious belief they want to enforce on others, or whatever reason, but it's that kind of holier-than-thou attitude that continually fucks over this world of ours.

And just to go on the record, I hate marijuana. But it's not my right to tell others what they can and cannot do in their free time.

Word.

The same goes for sexuality. It puzzles me how today people can still feel offended by someone else's sexual orientation or preferences.


Sexual preference is completely different. Everybody knows that it's just wrong to be gay and social contact with a homosexual causes immediate gayness in 98% of rednecks. It's like the flu.

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Really? Here in America, conservatives think the purple Teletubbie is the gay one. Strange.




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rocketpig said:
ElRhodeo said:

:) You're laughing, but last year the ultra-conservative government of Poland attempted to ban the Teletubbies from TV, because the Minister of Family Affairs discovered that the yellow Teletubby, who carries a handbag, is in fact a MALE! A BOY with a HANDBAG! He must be GAY! Our children will turn GAY!!!


Really? Here in America, conservatives think the purple Teletubbie is the gay one. Strange.

... ok, you're right. I googled for "Tinky Winky" - it's the purple one. Aaaaahh, PURPLE, now I get it. Gay pride. Propaganda. Infiltration. Conspiracy.



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blaydcor said:

Kasz216 said:

It's quite damaging to the brain.

However if people want to damage their brain who the hell am I to argue?

I've had more then one friend who's screwed up their lives just do to pot. But like I said. Personal decision.


Want to find a source for that? Or could it just be bullshit propoganda.....hmmmm.

Odds are your friends lives were not screwed up because of pot. They screwed up their own lives, and pot was just part of the downward spiral. It doesn't force you to do anything or change who you are.

That being said, I don't think smoking all the time is good idea at all, but mainly because it's not healthy and makes you unambitious. It's not going to 'screw up your life' though; you do that yourself.


Well there is my degree in psychology which involved a couple classes about how both illegal and legal drugs effect the brain. So... how about any psychology text book on the effect perscription, nonperscription and illegal drugs have on the brain? Drugs aren't exactly foreign to psychologists as it's an entire field of study.  A lot of groundbreakign psychologists use such drugs, and some teachers will actually almost suggest you try it. (though as to not go over the line and get fired or anything.)

They were fairly straightfoward falls for what it's worth. They started smoking pot. Then suddenly all they wanted to do was smoke pot, or smoke pot and do something else, to the point of where any night would be completly ruined unless they could get some pot.
Then they stopped wanting to do anything at all because they didn't have enough money for it and pot. Things like school they didn't even have patience for to do anything, and as such still sit around all the time and get high.

Once they hit the "Lets sit around and do nothing all day" phase that's when I was out. It's one of the same reasons i don't drink. I like to do stuff... or be entertained... or talk about things that are real and not bullshit. I don't mind talking about philosphy either, but pot doesn't really make you socraties all the sudden. 

Edit: by the way, the non ambitious thing is what I mean about it damaging the brain. Do you know why you aren't ambitious if you smoke too much pot? Because it physically damages the brain


Nice generalization for all pot smokers you just did right there pal. You think you know what is going on in my head right now? You have no idea.

While I may not be a psychologist, I am a lowly warehouse worker. Smoking pot frequently and constantly pushing management to train me in all apsects of the job, not just in the warehouse, but in the offices next door as well as things like Quality assurance, etc... 

Many things are done at my job and I strive to better myself at what I am doing at this point in my life while attending college to get my prerequisites done before I move onto something bigger with my life. I am only 23, I can't expect to be incredibly successful right now can I? I need to put away some money first so I can afford to go back to school full time. You have to work for it, but according to your logic, I will most likely end up nowhere and sit at home smoking my life away because I want to do it no matter where I am and no matter what I am doing.

My girlfriend's sister just finished her full time schooling at Stony Brook University, she is now 24 years old and 1 small step away from becoming a Registered Nurse, which is a growing field here in New York, plenty of money to be made. She smoked with me quite a few times. She also has a great 2 year old son and a husband who is close to finishing his schooling to be a physical therapist.

Yet in my case as well as their's... your logic fails.

As blaydcor said. We are responsible for our own actions. Quit shifting the blame elsewhere. If someone is a screw up in life, it is his/her fault and his/her's alone, nothing is handed to anyone. Even pot smokers achieve alot in life. Would probably blow a fuse if you ever found out some pot smokers achieve more in their lifetime than you do.

 

To be honest, I have hands on experience as to how a "psychologist" screwed up peoples lives. Perfect example is my brother. You don't want me to get into that. Yes he is responsible for what he now does, but unlike pot someone was actually telling him what he should and shouldn't do. Like talk back to my parents and hit my sister when she said something that offended him. Let us know he was still with me in Elementary school when he saw this "psychologist".

I guess I started getting into it anyways. I'm sorry but in my experiences psychologists think they know us better than we know ourselves. In my opinion... they should just mind their business and let us live our lives.

 

Sorry if this post comes out offensive, it is nothing against you personally, but I have just had a VERY bad history with psychologists.

 



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I don't recommend any drugs no matter how bad they are. Idk how you could recommend drugs , but I do think it is a less severe drug even though it does cause lung damage.
@ the person who said salvia is good. 100s of people killed theirselves under the influence of salvia last year.



I agree that people shouldn't blame marijuana for their lives going off the track. If they had a severe cocaine or heroin addiction, then I could agree with you because those drugs have a physically debilitating addictive factor to them.

When people blame video games for a school shooting, the fact remains that they still pulled the trigger. Even if the video game may have motivated them to do it in some way, it didn't put the gun into their hand.  People are just placing the blame on the catalyst rather than the underlying problem.

If marijuana "ruined" somebody's life, what if they would have become addicted to video games and had the exact same thing happen to them as with marijuana. Should we outlaw video games then because they are "addictive" and "ruin people's lives?"



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My mate started doing weed last year and ended up flunking school badly, failing all his exams and not going to Uni. I think he got 3 credits all up (out of a possible 140ish, most people get around 80).

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to touch it.


Also the idea of breathing smoke in to my body just seems stupid.



Clearly the issue of marijuana is a complicated one. I suggest we get some assistance by one of the great Canadian historians of our time.




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Rath said:
My mate started doing weed last year and ended up flunking school badly, failing all his exams and not going to Uni. I think he got 3 credits all up (out of a possible 140ish, most people get around 80).

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to touch it.


Also the idea of breathing smoke in to my body just seems stupid.

 Then you are indeed a smart one. While I have had no negative issues thus far I would agree that staying away from smoking and/or drinking is indeed the best choice.

Although if you ever did want to try it, I think you should be completely entitled to.



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Euphoria14 said:

#1. How would they smoke all the pot? Now how would they convict anyone?

#2. No idea how it is for d21lewis, but here in Suffolk County, New York the police are drug tested often and also random. It is easy to know these things when your best friend's Father is a cop. :)

I also found they get annoyed when you use the term "They were out to get me."

 

iron_megalith said:
Euphoria14 said:
iron_megalith said:
Euphoria14 said:
^ you do know your getting very out of hand right now correct?

I'd be stupid not see it. about the Tobacco, marijuana statement. They're just the same one less lethal than the other wooopie...


I fixed my post, it was never aimed at you.


Actually I really felt off starting with the tobaco statement someone gave.

 

Well, I am just glad to see it worked out. Even if you are against my views, your still one hell of a guy to converse with. My opinion anyways.


You don't convict people for buying weed, you write them a ticket.

 

I smoked weed for about 6 straight years of my life, every day, maybe 8 to 12 times a day, joints, blunts, bongs, pipes, ect.

 

Never drank a drop.

 

Ended up with a BA in business, and I don't have any lung problems.

 

The lesson, marijuana is bad.

 

No, I'm just kidding, it's great.

 

Just don't get enthralled in the "drug world" and "party culture" the first time you try it and snort come heroine or something, that's when you've messed up(but lemme tell you, I've had some "experiments" lol, but I'm morally ambigious).

 

That party culture is what causes you to fail out of school, not the damn weed. To each his own, I guess.



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