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jake_the_fake1 said:
Thatmax said:
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Thatmax said:
Im guessing you have never tied it Jake? take a couple a tokes and then see if u wanna preach to us! :)

Why suggest such a retarded thing? o.0


Im suggesting this because you are knocking something you have never tried before, you are saying that you are endangering lives by smoking weed, you are taking the stereotypical stoned guy who doesnt know what the hell is going on and believing that its always like that, its not like alcohol, you still feel in control, your mind doesnt start telling you to go and drive cars, you still know whats a bad idea etc.

And even though i dont approve of stoned driving a test on this tv programme showed that on average youare a more careful driver when stoned, this is because they are more attentive and kind of paranoid about crashing etc.


 that's like saying that you can't critise a a killer till you killed some one your self, but we all know thats wrong because that's how we've been tought, this is the same thing with drug, we've been tought that they are bad and that the only good drugs are those that are for medicinal purposes.

I suppose many will now say that marijuana has medicinal properties and I'd agree with you, however, those properties should be put in a pill and offered to those that need it rather than trying to legitimise smoking marijuana.


 Perfect example of a disanalogy, and the fact that you are saying that its bad because you have been taught that its bad kinda backs up lots of points that have been made.



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Jake, you do understand you are making no valid points as of yet right?

Everything I have written came from actual studies, which lead to answers, which leads to... yes you guessed it, Facts.

You are responding with nothing but BS speculation, nothing more.

Speculation... Fact? I go for the latter.

Here is the facts I have used.

http://www.taima.org/en/drug.htm

http://www.taima.org/en/driving.htm

Yours please? When you have facts to back your argument, I will respond to you, until then I am convinced you never tried Cannibus, have no experience to back up any of your claims and for that, honestly have no place in this discussion.



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I think cannabis is a good drug compared to tobbacco where it just *calms* you down, hemp does more than that, it is also proof that it helps ease the pain in people with cancer and is actualy legal in some states(you can only have one ounce ). tobacco on the other hand does the opposite of what hemp does and you can get a little testy when you havent had a smoke in a whil (you know the lack of nicotine).



Euphoria14 said:
You know, it is odd but people seem to understand marijuana a little more when they grow up.

I also did not realize that when I sent him the study on driving deaths in Australia based on Alcohol and various other drugs, he is indeed from Australia, yet he LOL'd at the link? Wow.

Now that is either denial or simply not knowing what the heck he is talking about.

 I LOLed at the site cuz it looks so unprofesional and clearly done by someone pro-marijuana, but if that same info was on the CSIRO website then I'd belive it, otherwise I just LOL at it again.



You know. This would be a much more interesting, insightful and friendly discussion if everyone were high.



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all drug users and traficers should be the punishemnt of amputation or death respectfully, no questions asked, people just have to learn, simply as that. :)

What is wrong with you? It wasn't funny the first time, much less when you repeat it.

 

 

 


Nothing is wrong with me, I just think it's time for some hard action to be put in place because clearly having a soft hand as we have now get's us no where, simple as that.


Because clearly the answer to stem the tide of nonviolent, victimless crimes is amputation or the death penalty. Let me guess: Next you're going to say that you would shoot them yourself, but you won't because [insert excuse here]. Thank you, Internet Tough Guy jake_the_fake1, you are clearly the last true hero in this world.


some times a few have to be sacrificed for the greater good, they are casualties of war. What war, I hear you say, it's the war against drugs my simple minded friend.

Now the reason I choose such a radical solution was because the current way of dealing with this problem simply isn't working, it's just a slap on the risk and that's it, if you really want to stop it then drastic measures have to be implemented, it's really as simply as that. Now the only people agains't this are clearly the same people doing drugs so it's natural for them to be defensive, but hey it's tough love and heaven knows we need it, and we need it now.


Only thing you forget it that people know damn well what they are doing when they do it. Nobody puts a gun to someones head and says "Smoke this and/or drink this or we will kill you".

You are more like "Smoke this and/or drink this and I will kill you".

The way I see it, you are worse than they are.

Man is the measure of all things, who is anyone to tell me what I can or can't do with MY BODY.


interesting you say this, cause we sure stop those that love to cut them selvs, but hey like you said it's their body and they can do what they like to it.

Now the question is, should tax payers money be spent trying to help these people once they've gone over board to the point of killing them selvs?

I say no, they should just be left to die, they decided to do it knowing what could happen, so they should be left to bear the brunt of their decision, after all it's their body and they can do what they like with it.


According to many religions, killing yourself is wrong. I do not say it is right, but I have no control over that.

Difference here is that Marijuana does not kill you nor does you doing the drug hurt anyone else.


if your stoned, and driving a car, the likely hood of you crashing is high, it's like alcohol, while it may not kill you it's self, it robs you of the sense's and brain power to not do stupid life threatening things, and it's these thing that can not only kill you but kill others.

As for not hurting others, well that's a lode of bull, how about hurting family and loved one?


Big difference my friend.

http://www.taima.org/en/driving.htm

Read that too.

Then realize that as I said. I only smoke inside my own home. Never going on in public, although Marijuana makes you drive slower. Alcohol makes you feel more "invinclible" if you will, thus making peple drive faster. Plus the fact that personality wise, there is almost no change when stoned compared to drunk.

Big difference.

Also, Alcohol does kill you.

Also, Marijuana enhances your senses, not robs them.

Before trying to bash something you do not understand, try reading up.


that and your link made me LOLz.

I've seen many stoners from high school do some dumb shit, non of them looked like they had a brain in them when they were stoned, enhances your senses my ass, but hey if you want to belive then go right ahead, it's a free world out there to belive what you want.


Your senses are pretty much ehanced when stned, and dont try to say they are not, there is scientific proof, and seeing as you have never smoked i dont see how you would know better, the reason for it is because you are very much focused on the mind, so its as if you are concentrating on them allot more.


look mate, stop fooling your self, cuz if what you say is true then why aren't they legalised?

after all they enhance your senses and we all know that truck drivers and commerical pilots need all their sense turned on for hours on end and marijuana seems like the perfect fit, but clearly this isn't the case, but hey keep living that fantasy.


 Actually I do believe it does do something with senses. Same with opium and steroids, they were used for medicinal purposes. BUT! It is given at a controlled quantity. Which means once it's used it should'nt be overdosed. So I still say nay to legalizing it.



stof said:
You know. This would be a much more interesting, insightful and friendly discussion if everyone were high.

 I hate you! You made me Laugh!!! XD



^ Huh? You do know it is not possible to overdose on marijuana right? There is no such thing as controlled dosage. You get some buds, that's it.



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Euphoria14 said:
Jake, you do understand you are making no valid points as of yet right?

Everything I have written came from actual studies, which lead to answers, which leads to... yes you guessed it, Facts.

You are responding with nothing but BS speculation, nothing more.

Speculation... Fact? I go for the latter.

Here is the facts I have used.

http://www.taima.org/en/drug.htm

http://www.taima.org/en/driving.htm

Yours please? When you have facts to back your argument, I will respond to you, until then I am convinced you never tried Cannibus, have no experience to back up any of your claims and for that, honestly have no place in this discussion.

 Well duh, I mean it's not like I ever said I tried it, but then again why would I try such a stupid thing?

Also, my original point was to punish drug users with extreme force, I point I made quite clear.

One thing I don't understand is why you defend the use of marijuana so fearlessly , is it because your a user and if so...well that explains allot. LOLz 



stof said:
You know. This would be a much more interesting, insightful and friendly discussion if everyone were high.

 As a mod you should not be advocating the use of drugs, shame on you.