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Forums - Gaming - Super Mario Maker will be the WiiU's biggest game yet (in sales)

fleischr on 23 June 2015
curl-6 said:
fleischr said:

You didn't read the rest.

Remember, these are products that are largely marketed towards children and their families - many of whom won't give a shit about E3 or what the support will be like long-term. They only care what's new, what's hot right now.

WiiU owners/Nintendo fans will buy this regardless of anything really.

And Wii U isn't.
It's not just us online nerds who are disenchanted with Wii U, so are mainstream consumers.

I actually agree that this game will sell quite well, but let's not pretend Wii U has good will with any audience demographic right now save the most forgiving of loyalists.


I don't deny that WiiU is bad shape -- however the classic 2D Mario IP is always popular, regardless of everything else going wrong with Nintendo. 2D Mario has a cultural zeitgeist really no other Nintendo IP has, even Zelda.

Because of that, when this game hits, I think it hits with the most colossal marketing campaign Nintendo has done in years.

The prior struggles only heighten the stakes further.  Money doesn't make those problems vanish, but enough of it does convince people to temporarily overlook such problems.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

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Dunban67 on 23 June 2015
fleischr said:
Dunban67 said:
there are wayyyy too many holes in your support reasons for Mario Maker to sell so well-

If Mario Maker is 1/2 as succeful as you say- then It wold be bad news for future Nintenod owners as they will release a "Maker" game for dozens of Mario/related iterations and little else (with accompanying Amiibo)


There's holes in your reasoning, not in mine.

If the maker franchise took off, wouldn't that mean people enjoyed it?


I m saying if it were super succesful as you hypothesize (outselling Mario Kart and or SSB plus moving alot of Wii u's- 

Nintendo seems to want to put signifiant assests in a few big names instead of spreading them out among a variety of their previously succesful IP, Like Metroid, like F-Zero, Wave Race etc

Mario Maker will not be anything like Minecraft in game play and in influence-   It may end up being succesful for Nintendo but it will not make any significant difference for the wiii u or be a "game changing" brand like Minecraft-



fleischr on 23 June 2015
RolStoppable said:
fleischr said:

While your account of the 2D Mario canon is pretty good -- the fact still is that people don't care about the story. They care about the fun, weird things they can do as Mario.

NSMB2 and U fell short of their sales potential because they come across... well... bland. Undifferentiated from their Wii and DS predecessors.

Make up your mind. I just explained to you why NSMB 2 and U came across as bland, they were first and foremost more levels and more power-ups. Also, you shouldn't equate "story" with "adventure".


This is what I'm trying to get across to you: Super Mario Maker is a far, far more vibrant game than either NSMB2 or NSMBU. The levels that come packaged with it are outstanding -- way more interesting than anything in NSMB2 or NSMBU. Having spent some time hands-on just playing the built-in levels, it's even more entertaining than the first time you ever picked up Super Mario Bros 3 or Super Mario World. Whether or not it will surpass those games remains to be seen, but the potential really truly is there. *but hey that's just my opinion.

The level-creation is practically just gravy, and it just provides a further means to an end of how Super Mario Maker can achieve same heights as it's storied predecessor.

We're talking about a game that has the soul of the most beloved Mario games but also has a ton more innovation than all those games.

As for the level-sharing itself: the package of getting the best levels possible from the user-content is a lot more sleek and sophisticated than you think.

Essentially this is a new, limitless Mario adventure.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

Soundwave on 23 June 2015

Agreed though I'm not sure I'd say it'll be the biggest game on the Wii U. This will be a big seller for Nintendo though. It's a Nintendo take on a genre that's very popular right now (user generated content) much like Splatoon is.

I think it will be very popular in Japan too much like Splatoon.