spemanig said:
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omg three games that were probably all straight to eshop releases. You got me. I'm finished. You totally proved your initial point that he is a Nintendo head that nothing on the internet can actually verify. You are so desperate for your speculation to be right, it's pretty silly. Is it so hard to wait for legitimate information, or is grasping at straws as if the NX is Nintendo's last hope and greatest prospect the name of the game here?
spemanig said:
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Well I'll wait and see but I hope they release it 2017 regardless
spemanig said:
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Oh right, didn't see it, sorry.
But don't you think that one of the machines could cannibalize the existence of the other because of the identical software?
My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first.
| tak13 said: I can't rule it out!I was needing a confirmation if your expectation was including one library of games!And you gave it to me! hmmmm!I'm really curious to see how this can happen,there will be one catridge/disk for both or two of the same game one for NX and another one for NXDS?The second is more easy and logical,the first is difficult in inplementation and in my opinion irrational,since the handheld variant I would think that won't have same power with the home console,how it will run the game that's coming in one catridge/disk which is for both,downscaling? Still there are mechanisms for which an altering is not possible(CPU)I mean,If the game is developed to running on the higher power cpu of the home console,there isn't way then to be playable on the handheld console since it will have a lower power cpu!Unless there will be a magic way or you expect the unexpected,to wit same cpu for both,hey handheld must be cheaper/affordable-reasonably priced!Or will the game be builded in the standards of the handheld console implying that they won't exploit the bigger potential of the home console for a better version?Or it will be made to run on both,like apps on pc where are able to run from very powerful cpu to a weaker cpu with different perfomance!That would mean no complete leveraging of the stronger cpu of the home console! What about core pokemon games?Can see them being in the home console too?Because,Junichi Masuda isn't very warm about a core pokemon game being on a home console...And by the aforementioned situation they will have to upend the developing of pokemon games! |
The NXDS will be digital only. The NX will probably use CDs, but will have a heavy focus on digital. They'll basically try to exterminate physical media on their platforms like PC. From there, it's just a matter of having two optimizations, one designed for the NX and the other that downscales to the NXDS. Since they systems will be specifically build to make this process simple, it will be reletively effortless.
Stuff like the Pokemon situation wouldn't matter. Pokemon will just be an NX platform game. It'll be playable on both. They're will likely be Smash Wii U/3DS-like exclusive differences depending on which hardware you play on to encourage owning both, just like with Smash 4 and now Hyrule Warriors. Expect all NX games to be like those examples.
He actually said in an interview that he'd be down with a console Wii U Pokemon if there were a way to make it portable. This is that way.
| LuckyTrouble said: omg three games that were probably all straight to eshop releases. You got me. I'm finished. You totally proved your initial point that he is a Nintendo head that nothing on the internet can actually verify. You are so desperate for your speculation to be right, it's pretty silly. Is it so hard to wait for legitimate information, or is grasping at straws as if the NX is Nintendo's last hope and greatest prospect the name of the game here? |
Doesn't matter if they were eshop games. That's not how game production works. He's the producer of multiple game products. It's silly to think that he doesn't know what the NX is. I'm sure he didn't find out about the Wii U until launch, too. Then he just pulled TF out of his ass in a year.
| BasilZero said:
Nope. I avoid fighters on portable systems specifically Nintendo's systems cause of how fragile the buttons are. But Smash isnt what I was talking about. I'm talking about Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi :O Having two types of Zelda games - like the ones on 3DS and ones on WiiU. |
But Smash is what you're talking about, because Smash, and now Hyrule Warriors, is what every game will be on the unified platform. You'd have all the Zelda games. They'd just all be available on both platforms instead of half on one and half on the other. And they'd have content exclusive to one or the other, just like those examples.
There'd be no MK8. Just MK7 on both the handheld and the home console, but with maybe some exclusive racers on each or something. If you own both, all the exclusive racers are playable on both your copies. That sort of thing.
| Metallox said: Oh right, didn't see it, sorry. But don't you think that one of the machines could cannibalize the existence of the other because of the identical software? |
They're part of one platform, so that couldn't happen. It's like saying that the ipad cannibalizes iphone sales of vice versa. You could argue that the existance of one effects the sales of the other, but none of that matters when all the money is going in the same place. The installed base wouldn't be handheld and console; it would just be platform. Not 50m vs 50m; 100m.
| spemanig said: Fils-Aime: The time frame that these systems are sold is quite long, and right now we’re still at the very early stages of the current generation. The other piece I would highlight is this is a global business. Don’t just look at what’s happening here in the U.S. Look at what’s happening globally. From a Nintendo perspective, we clearly have strength here in the Americas, we have strength in Europe and we have strength in Japan. That isn’t necessarily true of some of our more direct competitors. We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later. EDIT: Added by popular demand. "If we started for Wii U now, it would likely take three years or so. So it would likely now be on Nintendo's NX console." http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-next-proper-metroid-prime-would-likely-now-be-on-nx --- Good. Now people can stop trying to convinced themselves that it's just a 3DS successor or some kind of "third pillar." It's not. It's exactly what everyone should have thought it was when it was first announced. Now all we need is confirmation that there is an NXDS to go along side it, and I will officially win VGChartz. |
Neither of these indicate that NX is a home console.
Reggie's quote simply says they're working on a home console. Of course they are - Nintendo starts work on the next system (console or handheld) even before the current one (of the same type) is released. They started work on their next home console in 2012. But that doesn't mean it's NX.
The quote from Tanabe could easily be a misinterpretation by Eurogamer. Tanabe is Japanese. If he said the word "Next", it would sound a lot like "Nex", which they would have taken to be "NX", because that's how they'd want to hear it. And even if he said NX, he didn't say "home". If we suppose that NX is set to be a new handheld with power comparable to the Wii U, then what he said would still make perfect sense.
This doesn't mean it isn't a home console. But neither quote, or even both taken together, indicate that NX is a home console.
| BasilZero said:
Also the 2nd section - are you saying I would have to buy two versions of the same game just to get exclusive characters.....I rather not. That sounds worse than DLC. |
Nope. The games would be cross buy. Buy once, play forever.
How about something like this
2 versions of the same console
one handheld, the other home console
the handheld is a handheld (obvious)
has 3D like the 3DS
can be connected to a tv through HDMI
Can be played using wireless controllers
is backwards compatible with the 3DS
can't be connected to external hard drives
The home console model:
Is backwards compatible with Wii U
Can be connected to external hard drives
Can be played with wireless controllers or wired controllers like Gamecube controllers, arcade sticks or pc driving simulator wheels (would be cool for Mario Kart or F Zero)
Can output through HDMI, VGA and Component cables. So you can connect them to modern tvs or old crts tvs or monitors, which would be great for retro gaming.
which one would you get?
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