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mountaindewslave said:
enlightenedmaster said:
cause big third party games don't sell on nintendo consoles or handheld

Nintendo's image since Wii days is that of family and kids company

mature third party games just don't sell,even if the hardware was as powerful as PS4 and XBONE,it still wouldn't sell because of image problem


Nintendo has been that way since N64, nothing new! I agree with that to some degree but I think with the tablet controller and some funky decisions with the Wii and now the Wii U it certainly makes it hard to translate an adult game over to the Wii U. again as some have mentioned, far easier to port to PC or one of the other systems as the infrastructure/design is similar. Wii U is not remotely similar

Yeah but in N64 and GCN era,they used to get alot of third party games but since Wii,it has totally stopped



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Guitarguy said:
enlightenedmaster said:
cause big third party games don't sell on nintendo consoles or handheld

Nintendo's image since Wii days is that of family and kids company

mature third party games just don't sell,even if the hardware was as powerful as PS4 and XBONE,it still wouldn't sell because of image problem


This was also true in the N64 and GCN era but they had developers like Rare who managed to push the boundaries quite a bit compared to Nintendo's standards. Even in the SNES era, the Genesis was seen as the more mature orientated console with an uncensored version of Mortal Kombat, Madden etc. The PS1 was the console that really blew the roof off for mature content, partially because of Sony's gritty marketing and also because they allowed for more to be done.

In N64 and GCN era,they used to get alot of third party games but since Wii,it has totally stopped



oniyide said:
Retrogamer7 said:
Hey man, it seems apparent that some people didn't read enough of what you wrote in your argument for porting games to Wii U. Sorry for those that just read your title and were too lazy to read more.

I get what you are saying. However, I have often wondered why many companies bother making low selling PC ports. My thoughts on why they make PC ports that would sell about the same as a Wii U port is that perhaps the Wii U is harder to port to, and also they would have to invest into making Wii U gamepad functionality.

it was read and many people took the argument apart, which would be known if other posts were read.

A PC port wouldnt make as much as Wii U because it would do MORE way more. Pretty sure COD Ghosts on PC did much more than the Wii U version

Agreed. It's also easier and cheaper to port to stronger hardware than to weaker hardware (based on the lead platform of the game). You don't have to put that much work in optimization which saves man hours and money. You also don't have to downgrade the visuals (textures, resolution, FX, drawing distance...) of your game so it runs acceptable on the weaker platform.



Well, it's more than just now sales. It's also future sales. And what sells on a console.

1. The Xbox360/PS3 are still selling consoles and games. The WiiU isn't sell as well as them combined. That's not a good situation.

2. 3rd party games usually do not do very well on Nintendo platforms.

3. Profit.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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oniyide said:
Retrogamer7 said:
Hey man, it seems apparent that some people didn't read enough of what you wrote in your argument for porting games to Wii U. Sorry for those that just read your title and were too lazy to read more.

I get what you are saying. However, I have often wondered why many companies bother making low selling PC ports. My thoughts on why they make PC ports that would sell about the same as a Wii U port is that perhaps the Wii U is harder to port to, and also they would have to invest into making Wii U gamepad functionality.

it was read and many people took the argument apart, which would be known if other posts were read.

A PC port wouldnt make as much as Wii U because it would do MORE way more. Pretty sure COD Ghosts on PC did much more than the Wii U version


I doubt AC:Rogue did more on pc as COD/Ac4 on wii u. It was pretty same mistake as watchdogs on wii u, released half year later, no marketing. At least AC has a fanbase (watchdogs didnt) and the game wasnt hated as much as watchdogs.

 

Watchdogs poor sales are definitly not wii u´s fault. If you release something way later without marketing if will suck everywhere. 



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They system is too weak and not supported by most modern engines.

It is expensive to develop for another architecture (PowerPC) if all other plattforms (PC, PS4, X1) use AMD64.

The Wii-U audience is too young and does not buy 3rd party games.

The Wii-U user base is too small.

Nintendo's own games are too good and many 3rd party games cannot compete, so Wii-U owners buy Nintendo games instead.

The Wii-U has not been successful and might get discontinued very soon.

The Wii-U is heavily overpriced, so userbase growth is very low and many Nintendo fans or Wii owners refuse to buy the system.

Development costs do not pay off as all previous attemps to develop 3rd party games for Wii-U failed.

If you develop for Wii-U as a 3rd party developer you loose money istead of making it.


It is now to late for a turnaround, Nintendo management is to blame for the current situation. A tablet-less Wii HD with competitive hardware, Wii Sports HD and HD Wii game support and AAA 1st (Mario, Zelda) and 3rd party (funded by Nintendo) adult games on day one after launch would have been a huge success.



As simple of an answer as you're going to get, it's just that third party games simply don't sell well on the Wii U.

Even if we were to take into account the Wii U's relatively still low install base and how it still doesn't really sell to well, it still is big enough to support third party games. The PS4 and Xbox One, at the same install base of the Wii U, had third party games selling well.

Almost every third party game on the Wii U has just not sold well. Even the games that were good versions/even the best versions all failed to sell well. Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Call of Duty, Injustice, etc you name it. ZombiU, the premiere hyped third party game for the Wii U when it launched, still has not even sold a million.

Developers like Ubisoft showed a lot of support for the Wii U at launch and gave it plenty of chances with no return in profit, so why should they keep supporting it when nobody is supporting their games?

Now, i'm not talking about all Nintendo consoles here. I believe that third party games CAN be successful on Nintendo consoles, but on the Wii U I have no idea why people aren't buying third party games.



wow, you guys really should actually read the OP rather than just reading the title and answering the question. Hardly any of you actually responded to any of the points that were made.



RubberWhistleHistle said:
wow, you guys really should actually read the OP rather than just reading the title and answering the question. Hardly any of you actually responded to any of the points that were made.

Retrogamer7 said:
Hey man, it seems apparent that some people didn't read enough of what you wrote in your argument for porting games to Wii U. Sorry for those that just read your title and were too lazy to read more.

Wow, you are really good in ignoring all the answers refering to the points in the OP (and not only the title). The Nintendo Reality Distortion Field must be strong today.



Conina said:

RubberWhistleHistle said:
wow, you guys really should actually read the OP rather than just reading the title and answering the question. Hardly any of you actually responded to any of the points that were made.

Retrogamer7 said:
Hey man, it seems apparent that some people didn't read enough of what you wrote in your argument for porting games to Wii U. Sorry for those that just read your title and were too lazy to read more.

Wow, you are really good in ignoring all the answers refering to the points in the OP (and not only the title). The Nintendo Reality Distortion Field must be strong today.

what is the Nintendo Reality Distortion Field?