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Ouroboros24 said:
jlmurph2 said:
So you JUST realized you were watching part 1? Isn't Part 1 specifically in the name of the movie? Like when they do the whole movie title thing it says "Part 1".

Apparently you don't watch movies high.   When something ends, and you just realized that was the ending, you can still say you just realized it was part 1.  Then, you can JUST realize that you need to get part 2. 

Why are you not even adding into the discussion.  Please don't try to derail this thread.  Let me get it back on track.  So, I dislike splitting movies.  It's a bad artistic thing to do when all you're doing is milking something.  And I know, it's business, but at one point there was an artistic expression when pen first scribble on paper. 


..What?

My question is directly related to the post. So now I'm not supposed to ask anything? That's bullshit.

It isn't bad to split movies if you're trying to get the full story from the book. If the 4 hours was cut down to 2 it wouldn't be a good movie at all.



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Just like DLC in videogames, they'll stop once people stop buying them :/



jlmurph2 said:
Ouroboros24 said:
jlmurph2 said:
So you JUST realized you were watching part 1? Isn't Part 1 specifically in the name of the movie? Like when they do the whole movie title thing it says "Part 1".

Apparently you don't watch movies high.   When something ends, and you just realized that was the ending, you can still say you just realized it was part 1.  Then, you can JUST realize that you need to get part 2. 

Why are you not even adding into the discussion.  Please don't try to derail this thread.  Let me get it back on track.  So, I dislike splitting movies.  It's a bad artistic thing to do when all you're doing is milking something.  And I know, it's business, but at one point there was an artistic expression when pen first scribble on paper. 


..What?

My question is directly related to the post. So now I'm not supposed to ask anything? That's bullshit.

It isn't bad to split movies if you're trying to get the full story from the book. If the 4 hours was cut down to 2 it wouldn't be a good movie at all.

"So you JUST realized you were watching part 1? Isn't Part 1 specifically in the name of the movie? Like when they do the whole movie title thing it says "Part 1".--That pertains to the thread that states; "Can movie studios please stop splitting movies?" how?  Or did you just want to catch my writing grammar?  I can tell you I'm not a english teacher if you want.  See, that english teacher portion, that's not pertaining to the thread.  Ask a question pertaining, and you're fine.  You're below question pertaining to the thread, I will answer now.

And who said anything about cutting down, I'm saying give me all.  If it's another 2 hours or 7 hours, I would prefer to pay more if it's that important to run up at such a high time.  Common, really bro, do you like cliffhangers.  If you do, just say so, and back up why you like cliffhangers on a MOVIE.  I honestly would enjoy a good laugh at someone who enjoys delayed gratification. 



longer movie and more stuff from the books can find their way into them.
How's that a bad thing?

Deathly Hollows is combined 276 minutes or 4 hours and 36 minutes. Subtract ~10 minutes for one of the credits and you still got a movie that is unattractive for any movie theatre to show. It would draw far less viewers.



Ouroboros24 said:
jlmurph2 said:
Ouroboros24 said:
jlmurph2 said:
So you JUST realized you were watching part 1? Isn't Part 1 specifically in the name of the movie? Like when they do the whole movie title thing it says "Part 1".

Apparently you don't watch movies high.   When something ends, and you just realized that was the ending, you can still say you just realized it was part 1.  Then, you can JUST realize that you need to get part 2. 

Why are you not even adding into the discussion.  Please don't try to derail this thread.  Let me get it back on track.  So, I dislike splitting movies.  It's a bad artistic thing to do when all you're doing is milking something.  And I know, it's business, but at one point there was an artistic expression when pen first scribble on paper. 


..What?

My question is directly related to the post. So now I'm not supposed to ask anything? That's bullshit.

It isn't bad to split movies if you're trying to get the full story from the book. If the 4 hours was cut down to 2 it wouldn't be a good movie at all.

"So you JUST realized you were watching part 1? Isn't Part 1 specifically in the name of the movie? Like when they do the whole movie title thing it says "Part 1".--That pertains to the thread that states; "Can movie studios please stop splitting movies?" how?  Or did you just want to catch my writing grammar?  I can tell you I'm not a english teacher if you want.  See, that english teacher portion, that's not pertaining to the thread.  Ask a question pertaining, and you're fine.  You're below question pertaining to the thread, I will answer now.

And who said anything about cutting down, I'm saying give me all.  If it's another 2 hours or 7 hours, I would prefer to pay more if it's that important to run up at such a high time.  Common, really bro, do you like cliffhangers.  If you do, just say so, and back up why you like cliffhangers on a MOVIE.  I honestly would enjoy a good laugh at someone who enjoys delayed gratification. 


You're making something big out of nothing right now. My post was a question pertaining to the OP. Its common sense if you pick up a movie called The Deathly Hallows: Part 1 that there's at least another part. So its your own fault for not having Part 2 ready to watch with it. Not the movie studio.

No one is going to sit in a theater for 4 and a half hours for one movie.



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jlmurph2 said:
Ouroboros24 said:
jlmurph2 said:
Ouroboros24 said:
jlmurph2 said:
So you JUST realized you were watching part 1? Isn't Part 1 specifically in the name of the movie? Like when they do the whole movie title thing it says "Part 1".

Apparently you don't watch movies high.   When something ends, and you just realized that was the ending, you can still say you just realized it was part 1.  Then, you can JUST realize that you need to get part 2. 

Why are you not even adding into the discussion.  Please don't try to derail this thread.  Let me get it back on track.  So, I dislike splitting movies.  It's a bad artistic thing to do when all you're doing is milking something.  And I know, it's business, but at one point there was an artistic expression when pen first scribble on paper. 


..What?

My question is directly related to the post. So now I'm not supposed to ask anything? That's bullshit.

It isn't bad to split movies if you're trying to get the full story from the book. If the 4 hours was cut down to 2 it wouldn't be a good movie at all.

"So you JUST realized you were watching part 1? Isn't Part 1 specifically in the name of the movie? Like when they do the whole movie title thing it says "Part 1".--That pertains to the thread that states; "Can movie studios please stop splitting movies?" how?  Or did you just want to catch my writing grammar?  I can tell you I'm not a english teacher if you want.  See, that english teacher portion, that's not pertaining to the thread.  Ask a question pertaining, and you're fine.  You're below question pertaining to the thread, I will answer now.

And who said anything about cutting down, I'm saying give me all.  If it's another 2 hours or 7 hours, I would prefer to pay more if it's that important to run up at such a high time.  Common, really bro, do you like cliffhangers.  If you do, just say so, and back up why you like cliffhangers on a MOVIE.  I honestly would enjoy a good laugh at someone who enjoys delayed gratification. 


You're making something big out of nothing right now. My post was a question pertaining to the OP. Its common sense if you pick up a movie called The Deathly Hallows: Part 1 that there's at least another part. So its your own fault for not having Part 2 ready to watch with it. Not the movie studio.

No one is going to sit in a theater for 4 and a half hours for one movie.

I've already answered your first comment, you know, how you can still state certain things as long as it makes sense.  And if it's no big deal, why come back. Oh,I know, this must be your final post on this thread, huh?  As for fault, the studio saw fit to split a movie that could have been the epic long drawn end to a series that's lasted for how many movies they've made.    Instead, they made fans wait a whole year, paid the admittance for basically the same movie, and a lot of the first movie was just filler and emo crying. 

First book: 223 pages. Second book: 251 pages. Third book: 317 pages. Fourth book: 636 pages. Fifth book: 766. Sixth book: 607 pages. Seventh book: 607 pages.  This is UK books by the way, but it gives you a sense at which books they might have been able to split in two.  Jesus, imagine the outcry for if they started splitting movies by book 5? 

Apparently you've never met a Star Wars fan.  Those guys going in the whole day to watch the same movie, crazy right? 



Barozi said:
longer movie and more stuff from the books can find their way into them.
How's that a bad thing?

Deathly Hollows is combined 276 minutes or 4 hours and 36 minutes. Subtract ~10 minutes for one of the credits and you still got a movie that is unattractive for any movie theatre to show. It would draw far less viewers.

Don't cut anything off.  Long movies are fine being long movies if they have a story to tell.  Don't split because of the money.  Which was the case.  The final movie, the final payout.  BTW, the following are UK book counts per page.  First book: 223 pages. Second book: 251 pages. Third book: 317 pages. Fourth book: 636 pages. Fifth book: 766. Sixth book: 607 pages. Seventh book: 607 pages.

Really, how many movie goers go into a movie knowning how long it's going to be.  And even then, movies like Lord of the Ring Fellowship which was just shy a few minutes from being 3 hours, still saw a big crowd of people gather to watch it.  Made about $875 million.  By the second movie, Towers, fans watched that as well, despite already being informed on how long it would be.  Grossed 926 Million.  Same with the third.  Why?  Because they're movies people were willing to stay and sit through.  So, why would a franchise as huge and well known as Harry Potter, with it's final swan song, fail to do the same as all the other Harry Potter movies. 



In most cases (The Hunger Games, Twilight, The Hobbit, etc) i agree, but I actually quite liked it with Harry Potter. It did leave Part 1 with a somewhat unsatisfying ending (though i enjoyed the rest of the film), but it also meant that Part 2 was able to wrap the series up without it feeling cramped (my biggest complaint towards 1 through to 6). I'm totally fine with that compromise. Looking at how much money they made ($2.3 billion~ in cinema revenue), and the generally positive reaction from fans and critics towards both films (though part 2 in particular), i'd say they made the right call.

I'm going to wait until both parts of Infinity War are out before judging that. Every major 2+ parter up until now has been adapted from a single book, where a lack of content (such as with the Hobbit) can result in all of them feeling unnecessarily slow or being packed with filler. That shouldn't be a problem for IW, so the end result could be completely different.



Ouroboros24 said:
Barozi said:
longer movie and more stuff from the books can find their way into them.
How's that a bad thing?

Deathly Hollows is combined 276 minutes or 4 hours and 36 minutes. Subtract ~10 minutes for one of the credits and you still got a movie that is unattractive for any movie theatre to show. It would draw far less viewers.

Don't cut anything off.  Long movies are fine being long movies if they have a story to tell.  Don't split because of the money.  Which was the case.  The final movie, the final payout.  BTW, the following are UK book counts per page.  First book: 223 pages. Second book: 251 pages. Third book: 317 pages. Fourth book: 636 pages. Fifth book: 766. Sixth book: 607 pages. Seventh book: 607 pages.

Really, how many movie goers go into a movie knowning how long it's going to be.  And even then, movies like Lord of the Ring Fellowship which was just shy a few minutes from being 3 hours, still saw a big crowd of people gather to watch it.  Made about $875 million.  By the second movie, Towers, fans watched that as well, despite already being informed on how long it would be.  Grossed 926 Million.  Same with the third.  Why?  Because they're movies people were willing to stay and sit through.  So, why would a franchise as huge and well known as Harry Potter, with it's final swan song, fail to do the same as all the other Harry Potter movies. 

Since the runtime is displayed everywhere before you enter the cinema hall, I would say every movie goer. It's a difference if a movie runs between 90 and 120 minutes or 180 minutes and up.
Harry Potter started as a children's book and then went up slowly. Deathly Hollows is PG-13. How many of those teens are allowed to stay in a cinema when it's already past 10pm?

Face it, it's either having a 2-parted movie that's at least 3 hours or a single movie that doesn't exceed 3 hours. Everything else isn't attractive for the creators of the movie and the cinema. I'd rather take the longer one (as long as it makes sense to be that long). It's not like you don't get enough for your money.


The other Harry Potter books were indeed longer and it would've made sense to make more than one movie for each. Lots of great stuff missing. I mean you see like one Quidditch match a movie, when there were in fact several ones Harry took part in each year. Also most of the stuff that happens during the holiday season is cut out or extremely shortened and so on. Obviously the most integral parts of the story were still in the movies.



TheGoldenBoy said:
But Harry Potter was the first to do it and then everyone copied them.

I do agree it needs to stop.


The 1st i can remember was Kill Bill.