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RolStoppable said:
 

If you insist on semantics, then you should apply the same standard to your own posts.

Why were Capcom and other publishers considered evil for on-disc DLC? Because they charged money for it.
Does Nintendo charge money? No.

So we are looking at two different situations, hence it shouldn't be surprising that the reactions differ as well.

It's not hard to that you also don't apply the same standards that you use to criticize other users in you own posts here, specially recently when you decided to start monitoring a lot of threads and spreading your criticism, like you did with super6646, commenting all his threads just to criticize every point he was trying to made. Not saying he was right, but you were just trying to put the guy down.

I also don't think that on-disc DLC is bad. Peope are naive to think that DLCs aren't created in the same timeframe than the game. You could develop the DLC and just hold it for two months and that's it. I would say that I actually prefer on disc content because it avoids the hassle of downloading patches for it. As an example, every time that Injustice fot a new character, I also got a shiny 1GB patch to receive it, because even if I don't have the DLC I need the assets to play online with people that have it. A game costs X to make and they will profit Y with their expectations. After this math is closed, that's it. DLCs had their own development cost and if they were free the profit margin would decrease or there wouldn't be a profut at all. So they are sold to you.

Also notice that Nintendo is charging for these content YET. We can also confirm that instead of letting you decide when to play this content, they are playing babysitter for everyone and giving the content you bought in tiny drops, in their timeframe and not in yours. My point is that a lot of people that were heavy critics of DLCs and on-disc content won't complain when their favorite company does it, a similar situation to the BMW DLC for MK8. It's even more noticeable by the amount of people that had quoted my post in an hour just do defend the way the game is.

However, I won't discuss this here anymore, since it's visibly derailing the thread. If someone creates a topic about it (if it doesn't already exists and I didn't saw it), maybe I'll comment there about this situation.



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RolStoppable said:

Yes, that's why your point is rubbish. You want to point out hypocrisy, but when the underlying conditions are drastically different (paid vs. free), then there is no hypocrisy. Your example of BMW DLC for MK8 is the same thing, because it's once again a matter of paid vs. free.

You should know that the main point of criticism for certain DLC practices has always been "this should be free", so logically these same people would have no reason to complain about something that is indeed free.


Remember, it's free now. If they relase a paid one, all your points become invalid. The problem with on-disc content is that gamers feel like they own what comes with the base disc. Determining when you will be able to play this content that you already have is also a polemic situation.

But as I said about paid on-disc content, just because something is on the disc it doesn't means that's yours. If it's ready when the game goes gold, just put it in the damn disc so nobody has to download it. It's a matter of gamers not understanding how a developinf project works and how thigs work.

"It should be free because it's already on the disc" and "I should be able to play it now because it's already on the disc" are very similar situations and people are alredy complaining. My point is that the ammount of arguments trying to defend this situation coming from people that criticized the precious one is disturbing. That's my critic.

About the on-disc content, paid or free, I'm not against it. If it can be on the disc, just put it there. Capcom was criticized for Stree Fighter X Tekken but in the end what they did was to be sure that everybody could play online against each other without needing patches for all  characters.



Good to hear! The more maps, the better. I've already memorized the ones we have now, which I'm kinda thankful for.



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ExplodingBlock said:
All these people talking about Splatoon and how great it is
and I'm just sitting waiting for the price to go down in the US...


Why? So you can save 10 bucks?



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Wow, a new map coming and I don't even own the game yet. Tragic.



This game is seriously amazing.



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RolStoppable said:

Even if Nintendo releases paid DLC before the end of August, my points still wouldn't become invalid. In order to become guilty of hypocrisy, people would have to defend Nintendo for this hypothetical paid DLC you speak of. But I am not arguing about anything in the future, I am merely explaining the past and the present.

Your point has changed a little bit since the last post, but it's not much of an improvement. The fact remains that people won't have to pay extra in the latter situation, so Splatoon is a lot more similar to Hyrule Warriors' Cia, Volga and Wizzro (all of them got added as playable characters via a free update, but their movesets and everything else were already on the disc) than to Capcom's practices. Since most of the complaints about free updates are coming from people who don't own a given game, I'd say they missed the boat regarding Hyrule Warriors (which also added a bunch of other important things via free updates). Splatoon is a bigger game, so it gets more attention; but if people actually cared about the issue, they would have raised it as a negative for Hyrule Warriors last fall.


If the said paid DLC is on disc, that would only make my point. Of course, most of the complaints are from people who don't own the game, but that can also can be observed on all the people that say that this isn't a big deal for Splatoon but were criticizing the DLC policies of several big games in the last few years for the same reason even if the game isn't even available in their platform.

These issues not being raised for said games is just because Nintendo gets a free pass for almost everything they do, both from fans and critics.



Ooh, love that map.

Please give us Octoling as a playable character one day.



torok said:
I thought that on-disc locked content was an unforgivable error that was typical of Capcom and other evil publishers. But I guess Nintendo not only doesn't get the criticism as they even get praised by "releasing content timely so people are drawed back to the game".

It becomes a problem when they start charging you for it. It sucks we don't get this stuff day 1 but Splatoon's situation would have been much worse and more comparable if we were being charged for it.