They are expermanting for sure.
| d21lewis said: I just want to say that Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare is a thing. |
Exactly. People always ignore Garden Warfare when they argue Splatoon is the first family friendly competitive shooter. Nope, EA (yes EA) did it first.
They also did it better.
Sigs are dumb. And so are you!
I don't see them getting much marketing mileage out of DLC packs. If someone hasn't bought the game after friends tell them it's hella fun with the content that's on the disc AND playable, then I don't see how an additional map pack or 3 is going to convince them.
If you have a Wii U and you're friends are telling you the game is brilliant, you're either already lined up to buy it, or you just don;t have the same taste in games as your friends. If you are the only one of your friends that has a PS4 or Xb one and everyone else has a Wii U, then you definitely don't have the same taste in games as your friends, and Splatoon is also probably not on your radar.
People are expecting far too much from this little game that could. We're looking at a 500K opening week. Crow serving sales no doubt for those who thought 500K lifetime. But 500K first week is good, not awesomeness!!! Destiny was new IP, PS4 had an install base not all that much more than Wii U does today. You know what that got week one on PS4 alone? 2.2 million without digital counted*. Now that's awesome for a new IP.
I wish people would stop putting the weight of the world on Splatoon and just celebrate it as being a sucessfully launched new IP for Wii U. I don't think that Splatoon is going to turn the gaming world on its head of itself. But what I hope it might do is convince Nintendo that it can invest in completely new IP that does not lean on established characters from IP that dates back multiple generations. And that this ushers in a new era of Nintendo creating many more completely new IP that can be sustained beyond just one generation that rose and fell based on a peripheral that could not sustain the interest of the core gaming demographic. And by core I mean people who love gaming for gaming, not people who pretend that they are doing something healthy and active in front of their TV but "no I don't play video games, except sometimes with my kids."
*According to VGChartz, which we all know is inaccurate. But we do know that Destiny has sold multiple millions on PS4 even if the opening week is wrong by a large margin.
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The_Yoda said:
Lol when my son was 8 Metroid Prime would have given him nightmares. You ignored my question about having played Splatoon. You may well ignore this one too: Do you have children? I see you are 42, if you did have children would you have let them watch Nightmare on Elm Street when they were 8? What about a Porno? Some things are apporpriate at different ages and for different people. That is why we have a rating system. It is why most of the world has rating systems for various media. I ignored it initially but I will not any longer, telling someone how to raise their chidren or what they should expose their children to is not very classy. Double so when you don't even know the child. Notice neither of us said anything like NO Children should play COD before they are teens. We were talking about our children. If you haven't even played the game itself you have not even a leg to stand on when it comes to what a child should play, or if it is even a good introduction to the genere. |
Woah, please keep in mind that I am not forcing anyone to play anything. I am simply offering suggestions on other fps games that are made with everyone in mind, mostly to counter the claim earlier that splatoon was the first of its kind to do this.
I have not played splatoon. That said, I do not need to have played it to make reasonable assumptions, that is the whole point of reviews and ratings.
Letting a child watch Nightmare on Elm Street would be like letting them play COD. I am not fine with that.
Letting a child watch The Avengers would be like letting them play portal 2. That I am fine with.
And no, I am not a parent, but I am a college student with a 13 year old brother and an 8 year old brother. The rating system is also not perfect. I would put halo (assuming there is no cussing in the dialogue) as rated T (it shares many similarities to destiny which is rated T). I would also put Majora's Mask as rated T (I find that just as dark and scary as metroid prime). I have let my 8 year old brother play pikmin 3 (E10), Wonderful 101 (T), super smash bros brawl (T), and I could most definitely let him play portal 2 (E10)
Again, I am not saying splatoon is a bad "intro to fps game," I am arguing about the claim that it is the first game in the fps genre to be made with everyone in mind (shown higher up) given the other games I mentioned that are fps and rated T and below
Fusioncode said:
Exactly. People always ignore Garden Warfare when they argue Splatoon is the first family friendly competitive shooter. Nope, EA (yes EA) did it first. They also did it better. |
That's why Splatoon is rated higher and will sell better. Despite half its content being locked away at launch.
PvZ: GW is nothing like Splatoon anyway, so the comparison makes no sense. TF2 is also a family friendly shooter and predates both by a longshot.
| binary solo said: People are expecting far too much from this little game that could. We're looking at a 500K opening week. Crow serving sales no doubt for those who thought 500K lifetime. But 500K first week is good, not awesomeness!!! Destiny was new IP, PS4 had an install base not all that much more than Wii U does today. You know what that got week one on PS4 alone? 2.2 million without digital counted*. Now that's awesome for a new IP. *According to VGChartz, which we all know is inaccurate. But we do know that Destiny has sold multiple millions on PS4 even if the opening week is wrong by a large margin. |
Lol, you want to compare the marketing budget of Splatoon with Destiny? And Destiny keeps selling, so it benefits from a much bigger userbase.
Samus Aran said:
Lol, you want to compare the marketing budget of Splatoon with Destiny? And Destiny keeps selling, so it benefits from a much bigger userbase. |
You missed the point completely. There is this irrational exuberance floating around about Splatoon that is placing unrealistic expectation on a game that is unlikely to live up to such excessively optimistic expectations. Enjoy the game for what it is.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
binary solo said:
You missed the point completely. There is this irrational exuberance floating around about Splatoon that is placing unrealistic expectation on a game that is unlikely to live up to such excessively optimistic expectations. Enjoy the game for what it is. |
How about you stop downplaying it just because it's not your cup of tea.
You're the only one comparing it to Destiny here.
Samus Aran said:
That's why Splatoon is rated higher and will sell better. Despite half its content being locked away at launch. PvZ: GW is nothing like Splatoon anyway, so the comparison makes no sense. TF2 is also a family friendly shooter and predates both by a longshot. |
Garden Warfare is a blast!
Sigs are dumb. And so are you!
| pokoko said: The question is, are consumers fine with publishers/developers carving up a game, charging full price for a portion of that game at release, then feeding that content back to them at a pace controlled by the publisher/developer? The answer seems to be "yes". I have no doubt that other publishers/developers are looking at the positive reaction here with interest. This, if accepted by gamers, will allow publishers/developers to release an unfinished game much quicker than normal, then allow them to keep interest in that game going by feeding new content back when it appears interest is waning. That's an absolute dream situation, especially for a platform-holder with release gaps to fill. |
And that is very sad. Games should release complete, not in parts. That's why we defend delays.
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