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Cloudman on 13 June 2015

So does that mean the rumors about Sony parting ways with RaD are true? : / Well, I hope RaD continues to find success on their own with Paul on their team now.



 

              

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Mystro-Sama on 13 June 2015
daredevil.shark said:
Mystro-Sama said:
Who owns The Order's IP exactly?


Sony.


So why is everyone making it sound like another Order will never be made.



daredevil.shark on 13 June 2015
Mystro-Sama said:
daredevil.shark said:


Sony.


So why is everyone making it sound like another Order will never be made.


The idea of the order came in Ru Weerasuriyas mind back in 2006. Then he heard about another game that was exactly what he was thinking. Thats assassins creed. So he had to change the story. He intended to finish it in alternative future. Ru has the story. But Sony wont fund it and Sony wants PS4 to controvercy free. PS4 is very important to them and as a company Sony corp wants PS4 to be successful. The controvercy the order 1886 gave to PS4 was more than enough for Sony to stop funding the sequel. So Ru has story and Sony owns IP and has cash. It wont work. The series is done for.



ROBOTECHHEAVEN on 13 June 2015

i wish them the best, i liked the order 1886 game, hopefully a sequel can get made at some point in the near future.



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JOKA_ on 13 June 2015

tl;dr version:

- The Order is dead
- Ready at Dawn is probably going to make multiplatform games from now on



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Lawlight on 13 June 2015
IamAwsome said:

I don't think Santa Monica is completely at fault here. Over the last few years Sony has dropped several 2nd party studios after their games don't do well. You are right that every game SMS oversees turns to crap, but Sony's developer relations department or whatever is more responsible for this. Sony know doesn't know how to manage relationships with 2nd party devs anymore. Every single one of these developers made a game (or games) for Sony before the game metnioned in the bullet point. 

 

 

 

 

  • Sly Cooper: Thives in Time flopped and Sanzaru made the 3DS version of Sonic Boom after that. 
  • Lightbox had a multi-game deal with Sony and they "amicably ended"  that deal after Starhawk. 
  • Twisted Metal flopped and Eat Sleep play went into mobile development. AFAIK David Jaffe left right after the game released. 
  • Sony officialy cut ties with Superbot after PASBR flopped. They don't have a website and nobody has heard from them since. PASBR's director works ar Riot Games now. 
  • LittleBigPlanet Karting didn't sell very well. United Front Games hasn't worked with Sony since then.  
  • Zindagi Games developed Sports Champions 2, and their latest game is a Candy Crush knockoff for mobile. 
  • ColdWood Interactive made The Fight: Lights Out. They don't appear to exist anymore, and their website hasn't been updated. 
  • PlayLogic made EyePet, and went into bankruptcy soon after. 
  • The Workshop made Sorcery. It failed, and their latest game was The Evil Within. 
I bet I can find more examples, but these show Sony is definitely responsible for Ready at Dawn going multiplat. The new CEO just won't admit that out of respect for Sony. 

 

Sony trusts developers too much. For example, Lightbox - everyone wanted a sequel to Warhawk and they made Starhawk.

Sly Cooper - there are rumours of a new one, which makes sense since a movie is coming out.



Mystro-Sama on 13 June 2015
daredevil.shark said:
Mystro-Sama said:


So why is everyone making it sound like another Order will never be made.


The idea of the order came in Ru Weerasuriyas mind back in 2006. Then he heard about another game that was exactly what he was thinking. Thats assassins creed. So he had to change the story. He intended to finish it in alternative future. Ru has the story. But Sony wont fund it and Sony wants PS4 to controvercy free. PS4 is very important to them and as a company Sony corp wants PS4 to be successful. The controvercy the order 1886 gave to PS4 was more than enough for Sony to stop funding the sequel. So Ru has story and Sony owns IP and has cash. It wont work. The series is done for.


I hope they at least broke even.



EspadaGrim on 13 June 2015
solidpumar said:
Sony is doing the wrong thing. Now that ready at dawn has all the next gen experience they need, tech and tools, they can create another game at half the cost.
Sony paid the price, but won't reap the benefits.


Yep Ready at Dawn got the better end of the deal IMO.



EspadaGrim on 13 June 2015

This is situation is similar to Heavenly Sword and Ninja Theory back in the day, Sony own the IP and Ninja Theory later announced that they wanted to go 3rd party. Although this doesn't mean that a sequel can't be made by another studio but it's highly unlikely.



IamAwsome on 13 June 2015
Lawlight said:
IamAwsome said:

I don't think Santa Monica is completely at fault here. Over the last few years Sony has dropped several 2nd party studios after their games don't do well. You are right that every game SMS oversees turns to crap, but Sony's developer relations department or whatever is more responsible for this. Sony know doesn't know how to manage relationships with 2nd party devs anymore. Every single one of these developers made a game (or games) for Sony before the game metnioned in the bullet point. 

 

 

 

 

  • Sly Cooper: Thives in Time flopped and Sanzaru made the 3DS version of Sonic Boom after that. 
  • Lightbox had a multi-game deal with Sony and they "amicably ended"  that deal after Starhawk. 
  • Twisted Metal flopped and Eat Sleep play went into mobile development. AFAIK David Jaffe left right after the game released. 
  • Sony officialy cut ties with Superbot after PASBR flopped. They don't have a website and nobody has heard from them since. PASBR's director works ar Riot Games now. 
  • LittleBigPlanet Karting didn't sell very well. United Front Games hasn't worked with Sony since then.  
  • Zindagi Games developed Sports Champions 2, and their latest game is a Candy Crush knockoff for mobile. 
  • ColdWood Interactive made The Fight: Lights Out. They don't appear to exist anymore, and their website hasn't been updated. 
  • PlayLogic made EyePet, and went into bankruptcy soon after. 
  • The Workshop made Sorcery. It failed, and their latest game was The Evil Within. 
I bet I can find more examples, but these show Sony is definitely responsible for Ready at Dawn going multiplat. The new CEO just won't admit that out of respect for Sony. 

 

Sony trusts developers too much. For example, Lightbox - everyone wanted a sequel to Warhawk and they made Starhawk.

Sly Cooper - there are rumours of a new one, which makes sense since a movie is coming out.

That makes sense. Sony gives people more creative freedom than most publishers. With Starhawk and The Order it came back to bite them. Sony probably needs to oversee its development partners more thoroughly so money doesn't get wasted. 

Sly- Thieves in Time hinted at a sequel so another game wouldn't surprise me. Sanzaru going straight to work on a 3DS game rubbed me the wrong way though.