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InnocentSin on 08 June 2015

I do think that Season 5 started slow but it's gotten better the last few episodes. I've never read the books so I don't particularly care for the major changes and considering what they've done in the show, it actually seems more enjoyable than the lack of things occurring in AFFC/ADWD. Btw, I hear Euron Greyjoy is being cast for next season so the Greyjoy +Ironborn storyline may still be a thing. And when it comes to the Battle of the North, I can't really side with Stannis or the Boltons so might as well root for the White Walkers.



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TheDarkShape on 08 June 2015
Faelco said:
TheDarkShape said:
Screw the books. The show and books are completely different animals, and basing your enjoyment of the show on how much of the book content is directly ported over is silly.

I don't get why "it's silly". If you know an awesome story, with great characters in a huge world, and see an adaptation butchering a lot of what you liked, it's not silly to be disappointed. For me, the problem is not that the show is different from the books, it's that the last season is bad compared to the books. So I'm disappointed in season 5, even if I liked the previous seasons and their changes.  

 

And even about the differences, we've seen a lot of "debates" for other adaptations like LOTR or the terrible Eragon, based on their differences with the books. Imagine an Harry Potter adaptation as different from the source material as GoT. It would be a huge sh*tstorm on the Internet... 


It already *was* a huge shitstorm on the internet.  In the time after Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban was released, book-purists lost their minds.

Here's the trouble: the impression I get is that y'all don't want good television or good films, you just want staged readings of the books; you (and by you, I mean the movement at large) simply want to watch and not have to read anymore.

I love A Song of Ice and Fire.  I love Game of Thrones.  But the success of one has nothing to do with the success of the other.  Just make the best television you can, fealty to your source material be damned.

Tell me: which is the better movie, Twilight or The Shining?  Because one is an amazingly faithful adaptation, and the other is a bastardization of its source that also happens to be a cinematic masterpiece.



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Faelco on 08 June 2015
TheDarkShape said:
Faelco said:

I don't get why "it's silly". If you know an awesome story, with great characters in a huge world, and see an adaptation butchering a lot of what you liked, it's not silly to be disappointed. For me, the problem is not that the show is different from the books, it's that the last season is bad compared to the books. So I'm disappointed in season 5, even if I liked the previous seasons and their changes.  

 

And even about the differences, we've seen a lot of "debates" for other adaptations like LOTR or the terrible Eragon, based on their differences with the books. Imagine an Harry Potter adaptation as different from the source material as GoT. It would be a huge sh*tstorm on the Internet... 


It already *was* a huge shitstorm on the internet.  In the time after Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban was released, book-purists lost their minds.

Here's the trouble: the impression I get is that y'all don't want good television or good films, you just want staged readings of the books; you (and by you, I mean the movement at large) simply want to watch and not have to read anymore.

I love A Song of Ice and Fire.  I love Game of Thrones.  But the success of one has nothing to do with the success of the other.  Just make the best television you can, fealty to your source material be damned.

Tell me: which is the better movie, Twilight or The Shining?  Because one is an amazingly faithful adaptation, and the other is a bastardization of its source that also happens to be a cinematic masterpiece.

That's why I said that for me, the season 5 is bad, differences or no differences. 

No character developments, no politics at all, just a succession of fight scenes and sex scenes with a few one liners and scandalous scenes in-between. It's not about the game of thrones anymore, just about "what will be the next shocking scene? who will die next?". Pretty uninteresting IMO. 



Trunkin on 08 June 2015

Book 5 was a shit book, so I kind of expected season 5 to be shit as well. Hardly anything of worth happened in that book. It could've been half the length that it was. I waited 4 years for nothing. The show can never be as disappointing, because they at least have to adhere to some sort of release schedule.

I also find it funny that you expect GRRM to finish book 6 by spring next year. When have promises meant anything to him when it comes to writing these books? I accepted long ago that I will never get to read book 7. Unless, by some miracle, GRRM is still alive in 2022.



TheDarkShape on 08 June 2015

The trouble with A Dance with Dragons is that the whole book is building to specific events, yet said events don't come to pass and are saved for The Winds of Winter.  The whole book feels unsatisfying as a result, even though I personally found the bulk of it to be better than, at least, A Feast for Crows and A Clash of Kings.



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daredevil.shark on 08 June 2015
walsufnir said:


I agree with you. But the show doesnt need to follow the book accurately. Look at harry potter. If it followed everything (one years story in a movie) then it would spoiled the movie.



Talal on 08 June 2015

Season has been so disappointing. Worst one by a decent bit.

I only enjoyed episode 8.



InnocentSin on 08 June 2015
Hiku said:

I actually feel the opposite. At first I saw it as it deviating from the books, but now I see it more as its own thing, because it's gone so far from the books that it might as well be.
And because of that, I get surprised by things, and I think they're doing it rather well for the most part. For example, I love the interaction between Daenerys and Tyreon. And the fight against the Whitewalkers last episode was awesome. Great choreography, and confirmation that Valyrian Steel works like Dragonglass.

Overall I find it mostly positive. But that's not to say it hasn't disappointed me as well.
For example, I wanted to see Catlyn Stark (Stonehart), but I doubt that's gonna happen now.

And it's sad that we missed the whole story with Tyreon and the other Targeryan and the slave camp. Some really good scenes in there. "A Lanister always repays his debts."
The chapters with Brienne with Nimble Dick and Stoneheart were also interesting I though, but looks liek the TV series is skipping that as well.
And we're probably not going to see Davos going off to search for Bran either, sadly.

I also don't like how Stannis sacrificed his daughter in this latest episode. I felt like he started to become a bit more compassionate with his interactions with Jon. (Sending her the fake Arya as a gift as thanks for his warning of the Karlstark betrayer.)

As for how the TV series will end, I have a feeling it will be similar to the books, which is why I hope we have more than just one season left, or maybe it won't be worth watching it and risk spoiling the book ending.


The next episode is titled "Mother's Mercy" so there still may be a chance for her to appear. Although, it could just be about Dany and her dragons..



TheGoldenBoy on 08 June 2015

This season is the worst so far. It isn't just because they're straying from the books, I've come to accept that part. It's that everything feels like it's being done for shock value now. The only episode I legitimately loved was Episode 8. I'll continue watching the show for certain characters and because I have no idea when Martin will finish his books, but I'll probably view this as some alternate universe to the books.



zumnupy10 on 08 June 2015

Episode 9 was really great.

Season 5 comprises almost everything there is in the fifth book "The Dance of the Dragons". It will be interesting to see what remains for season 6.