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eva01beserk on 05 June 2015
Zekkyou said:
starcraft said:
Hmmm.

Some suggestions, though i might be making it too complex:

- Find a way to differentiate between small-scale and AAA releases
- Differentiate digital only releases.
- Investigate the use of bands. For example, using a flat average of all games of a certain type will include a few small and badly performing games, that will skew the otherwise very appealing nature of better games.

Finally, you're missing Fable Legends, which is pegged for a 2015 release, and on your criteria will come with a ranking of about 84-85.

I think the simplest way of going about it is to just separate games into retail and digital-only groups. There will occasionally be an obvious exclusion (like an indie retail collection or a limited indie retail run), but it works most of the time and involves little work. It also avoids definition debates, since while 'AAA' is used in a dozens different contexts by different people and companies, 'retail' is pretty firm :p

Thee simplest way? I think is the only way. This should really be done. 

But on the first thread someone pointed out a list war website that already included ranks, retaail, ports and all that. That seemed to be more than perfect and we should just use that. 



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eva01beserk on 05 June 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
starcraft said:

Ahh ok.

So Journey was a Kinect spin off, Fable Heroes was an Xbox Live Arcade beat em' up.

Fable Legends is a AAA mainline Fable entry - they appear not to be making 'Fable 4.'

Ahh ok. Will alter again.

Slipery slope. Some one from the other side will use the same argument then to change a score on the oposing list. If you already set up a rule system, I dont think you should be making exeptions. You can probably adjust the rules and improove them, but not make exeptions.



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starcraft on 05 June 2015
eva01beserk said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Ahh ok. Will alter again.

Slipery slope. Some one from the other side will use the same argument then to change a score on the oposing list. If you already set up a rule system, I dont think you should be making exeptions. You can probably adjust the rules and improove them, but not make exeptions.

I don't think its an exception though?

Including Heroes and Journerys would be like including pokken tournament and mystery dungeon when looking at recent Pokemon game quality.



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SWORDF1SH on 05 June 2015
eva01beserk said:

Slipery slope. Some one from the other side will use the same argument then to change a score on the oposing list. If you already set up a rule system, I dont think you should be making exeptions. You can probably adjust the rules and improove them, but not make exeptions.

Using same rule as the other games. I just messed up with Fable and needed to be corrected



eva01beserk on 05 June 2015
starcraft said:
eva01beserk said:

Slipery slope. Some one from the other side will use the same argument then to change a score on the oposing list. If you already set up a rule system, I dont think you should be making exeptions. You can probably adjust the rules and improove them, but not make exeptions.

I don't think its an exception though?

Including Heroes and Journerys would be like including pokken tournament and mystery dungeon when looking at recent Pokemon game quality.

I dont know, legends seems to be a lot more like heroes then the main trilogy.



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starcraft on 05 June 2015
eva01beserk said:
starcraft said:

I don't think its an exception though?

Including Heroes and Journerys would be like including pokken tournament and mystery dungeon when looking at recent Pokemon game quality.

I dont know, legends seems to be a lot more like heroes then the main trilogy.

Lol dude...Fable Legends is a next gen, high budget AAA title. 

This is gameplay from the Heroes XBLA game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cDY-_PKbl8



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eva01beserk on 05 June 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
eva01beserk said:

Slipery slope. Some one from the other side will use the same argument then to change a score on the oposing list. If you already set up a rule system, I dont think you should be making exeptions. You can probably adjust the rules and improove them, but not make exeptions.

Using same rule as the other games. I just messed up with Fable and needed to be corrected

Then you should edit the rule and say that only "main line console releases", instead of "the last 3 releases" count. Otherwise I see a lot of people debating this.



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eva01beserk on 05 June 2015
starcraft said:
eva01beserk said:

I dont know, legends seems to be a lot more like heroes then the main trilogy.

Lol dude...Fable Legends is a next gen, high budget AAA title. 

This is gameplay from the Heroes XBLA game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cDY-_PKbl8

And this is a video of gameplay from Legends, Ignore the IGN crap, I reallly hate thouse guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQM_Dw_b0jE

Being a AAA big budegt game does not matter. The gameplay is still a lot closer to heores than it is to the main trilogy. Legends is a beatem up 4v1.



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ArchangelMadzz on 05 June 2015

This seems incredibly promising. Would love to see it once everything is ironed out.



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ArchangelMadzz on 05 June 2015
eva01beserk said:
starcraft said:

Lol dude...Fable Legends is a next gen, high budget AAA title. 

This is gameplay from the Heroes XBLA game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cDY-_PKbl8

And this is a video of gameplay from Legends, Ignore the IGN crap, I reallly hate thouse guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQM_Dw_b0jE

Being a AAA big budegt game does not matter. The gameplay is still a lot closer to heores than it is to the main trilogy. Legends is a beatem up 4v1.

Fable 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn_WlZyWLEE&ab_channel=TheFettman13
Fable 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFefRntCDuA&ab_channel=ParkyGames
Fable 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-xbQN8IO-4&ab_channel=VintageBeef

Yeah I'd definitely agree with you there, this looks way more like Heroes. This looks nothing like the original 3 fable games. I think it's fair to include heroes.



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