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Mr.GameCrazy said:

Soundwave said:

From the sounds of if you want to play Mario Kart 9, Mario Galaxy 3, etc. etc. or whatever Nintendo's future releases are starting in 2016/2017 ... you are going to have to play them on an Android system because NX is going to be Android based.


The NX being Android based is a rumor. Let's not assume that it's true until Nintendo confirms it.


Nikkei is not some trash rag fan site. They are the financial authority in Japan and have had several scoops on Nintendo before in the past. They are the closest media source to Nintendo quite simply put. 

I take them at their word. The Japanese stock exchange is the freakin' Nikkei. They're a financial hub and a business institution in Japan. 



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tak13 said:
Oh...
Why did you talk about bankruptcy?Reading that part,made me not want to discuss about other options that you put!Nintendo had it's first loss ever in 2012 but with that loss every year they could survive till 2060 with the money it has in the bank and even further with its properties and other tangible assets,but how possible is to have that loss every year,not at all,you can always reverse it and nintendo did that in the last fiscal year and wii is being sold at a profit anymore,in addition the handhelds are successful big sellers(start concerning if its handhelds fell to the levels of its home consoles),well 3DS will be the 2nd best selling hardware of this gen and nintendo's software at most doing from very well to impressive and that on its own platforms...
NX just need to be very profitable from the beginning,who cares if you sell 50m? When you have constant huge losses,e.g by selling your product way under the manufacturing cost and that at an early time.
We have paradigms of huge or great sellers but with no profits,huge money loss or low profits!
Some people pay too much attention to the size of the installbase....I agree bigger is better especially when it comes to the company's prestige,but eventually it's all about profits!
P.s
Don't be anxious about nintendo,you admitted that you don't like it,so worry about and make suggestions to your own ship....
Personally,I just mind market-wise nintendo's any home console,to be very profitable,not making any loss and to not sell under 20m...


If you run yourself into irrelevance, money won't do squat! You'll just lose more and more every year. And eventually, investors will bail the ship, and you'll have nothing.



super6646 said:
Soundwave said:


Many third parties are bailing out of the traditional console model too. 

Konami is out. Square-Enix is hedging more and more towards mobile. 

Companies are not going to support a business structure that could bankrupt them if they have one or two games that don't sell as well as expected. 

Hollywood Studios have that kind of funding, but game development studios don't, not unless you're EA and even EA has recently had monstrous layoffs. 

Then in that case, I'll be done with gaming. I don't want stupid andriod apps running on a console. Also, you're argument has one fatal flaw with it. Its that these companies won't want to develop for this! If they're really moving mobile, that doesn't include Nintendo. Unless nintendo starts making phones, its likely doomed if it doesn't go the "traditional" way.


There will be many developers that will develop for it. Mobile is getting tons of support already, now mix in physical controls being throw into the mix by Nintendo and mobile chips that are exceeding the PS3/360/Wii U in horsepower and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where this is going. 

The best selling game console in history is the PS2 at 150 million which took ten years to hit that. 

Android devices ship 250 million. In one year. Every year. 

I've been around for a while and I've heard it all. I remember militant Nintendo fanboys saying during the GameCube that they would quit gaming and quit Nintendo if they ever allowed things like movie playback (hi Netflix on Wii) or other non-gaming features into Nintendo consoles. 



Soundwave said:
super6646 said:

Then in that case, I'll be done with gaming. I don't want stupid andriod apps running on a console. Also, you're argument has one fatal flaw with it. Its that these companies won't want to develop for this! If they're really moving mobile, that doesn't include Nintendo. Unless nintendo starts making phones, its likely doomed if it doesn't go the "traditional" way.


There will be many developers that will develop for it. Mobile is getting tons of support already, now mix in physical controls being throw into the mix by Nintendo and mobile chips that are exceeding the PS3/360/Wii U in horsepower and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where this is going. 

The best selling game console in history is the PS2 at 150 million which took ten years to hit that. 

Android devices ship 250 million. In one year. Every year. 

No, but having a costom android OS doesn't mean all the apps will be there. Plus, whos going to buy this? I can buy a phone in that case! Its a flawed concept, and its why the OUYA failed.



super6646 said:
Soundwave said:


There will be many developers that will develop for it. Mobile is getting tons of support already, now mix in physical controls being throw into the mix by Nintendo and mobile chips that are exceeding the PS3/360/Wii U in horsepower and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where this is going. 

The best selling game console in history is the PS2 at 150 million which took ten years to hit that. 

Android devices ship 250 million. In one year. Every year. 

No, but having a costom android OS doesn't mean all the apps will be there. Plus, whos going to buy this? I can buy a phone in that case! Its a flawed concept, and its why the OUYA failed.

Can I play Mario Kart on the Ouya? Mario Galaxy 3? Splatoon 2? Zelda?

OUYA was a cheap indie funded platform with no marketing, no retail support.

Nintendo is a billion dollar corporation, not some guys in their garage who can't get Best Buy to stock their $90 emulator machine. 



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I still don't understand the logic of just making a Nintendo version of Playstation/Xbox, they don't appeal to the same demographic and the PS/XB crowd of 13-35 year old males has wanted nothing to do with Nintendo for about 20 years.

Look at Nintendo's top 50 best selling games, 48/50 are what we would consider casual-friendly (kids, females, parents). So the logical choice for Nintendo is to pursue the casual crowd which they clearly did not this generation.



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Soundwave said:
super6646 said:

No, but having a costom android OS doesn't mean all the apps will be there. Plus, whos going to buy this? I can buy a phone in that case! Its a flawed concept, and its why the OUYA failed.

Can I play Mario Kart on the Ouya? Mario Galaxy 3? Splatoon 2? Zelda?

OUYA was a cheap indie funded platform with no marketing, no retail support.

Nintendo is a billion dollar corporation, not some guys in their garage who can't get Best Buy to stock their $90 emulator machine. 


Yup, you can play all that on the Wii U, its why it hasn't even hit 10 million sold yet....



zorg1000 said:
I still don't understand the logic of just making a Nintendo version of Playstation/Xbox, they don't appeal to the same demographic and the PS/XB crowd of 13-35 year old males has wanted nothing to do with Nintendo for about 20 years.

Look at Nintendo's top 50 best selling games, 48/50 are what we would consider casual-friendly (kids, females, parents). So the logical choice for Nintendo is to pursue the casual crowd which they clearly did not this generation.


They did pursue casuals with Wii U and 3DS. Who the hell launches a platform with Nintendogs and closes an E3 with a fire works display from Nintendo Land? Not a company aiming for hardcore consumers. Though you're right. Sony/MS are established there and no one but a minority of loud of Nintendo fans on the internet want a "me too" third console.  

There was a revolution in casual technology between 2007-2010 that caught Nintendo flat footed is what happened. 

So now they are making some hard choices about their company's direction. 



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Soundwave said:

I think NX is going to be a bigger change than what some Nintendo fans expect.

Personally I think huge changes are happening within Nintendo right now and they have accepted that their old business model will not work for them in the future. I think they have accepted this internally probably within the last year or so, but it was brewing before that. 

That even goes for the same ol' "just making a Playstation-killer! But with Nintendo games! And market it!".

That is also outdated thinking. Things are changing. 

Going Android could be a game changer for them with third parties too. I think third parties themselves will eventually start to revolt against the traditional console model. Traditional home console games have become too expensive to make and if one flops it can sink a studio. Nintendo for once might actually be ahead of the curve on something. 

I could very easily and honestly see a company like Square-Enix saying "y'know instead of PS4/XBox One we've decided to make Final Fantasy VII/VIII/IX Remakes for the NX and Android platforms instead". 

PS4 has an instal base of maybe 40-50 million in a year or two. Android has hundreds of millions of users. As Android phones/tablets get more powerful better and better games will start showing up and if NX has some early success, developers can easily add in physical controls to many of those games (that's like 3-4 days worth of programming, super easy). 

This is an insightful post.

 

Nintendo has already tried the playstation-killer option with the Gamecube and it didn't work.  The Gamecube was a ps2 killer when it came to technical specs but it really didn't really stop the gradual movement of third parties away from Nintendo.  People still thought of the Gamecube as the kiddy console even though it was powerful.  More importantly, The Gamecube sold worse then it's predecessor which is what might happen to the NX if Nintendo tries to repeat this formula (imagine, a console selling worse than the Wii U!)

Nintendo needs to get back to what they do best and that's making games.  They cannot compete with the platforms that Sony and Microsoft offer and I don't know if they need to.  I'm not quite sure what a Google/Android-based console will look like, but it sounds like a brilliant way to get Nintendo away from the nitty-gritty details associated with developing a modern OS environment and get back to making fun and unique games that are accessible to a large audience.