starcraft said:
Conina said:
No, you pay $744 dollars for the XB1 X + 24 months Xbox Gamepass Ultimate. There ain't a Scarlett included in this price, you only get an upgrade option for an unknown upgrade price.
If the upgrade from the used Xbox One X to a new Scarlett costs $299, you pay $1043 in total. If the upgrade from the used Xbox One X to a new Scarlett costs $249, you pay $993 in total. If the upgrade from the used Xbox One X to a new Scarlett costs $249, you pay $943 in total.
On the other hand if you buy an Xbox One X for $299 on Black Friday + 2 years XBL Gold for 2x $60, then upgrade it to Xbox Gamepass Ultimate for one buck (activate XBL Gold + the upgrade on a secondary account and use it with the main account), you pay $420 instead of $744.
If the Scarlett costs $499, you pay $919 in total and have a 1 year old Xbox One X to sell for $150 - $200. That brings the costs down to $719 - $769 instead of $943 - $1043.
So no... it ain't a good deal.
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You're using absolute best case scenario options there for the discrete purchases options. Ultimately I expect the deals on getting Ultimate to slow down. I can see how in the US and the UK this could be a good deal, though thats heavily dependent on what the upgrade options looks like. I note it says 'after 18 payments.' It also says after 12 payments for those who sign up before the end of the year. If that means you pay a slightly higher subscription but not a significant one of payment for Scarlett, that would be an awesome deal.
Unfortunately in Australia, they've fundamentally gimped the deal. Unlike the other countries, they've tied it to a Telco. Telstra is far and away our most expensive provider of phone and internet services, and you have to be an existing customer of theirs to take up the deal. The base pricing isn't too bad. When you consider how crap our exchange rate is at the moment its a reasonable proposition. But the deal is dead on arrival for anyone that doesn't already have a (likely business-related) reason to be on a Telstra plan.
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I didn't use the absolute best case scenario options for the discrete purchases options. I even calculated the official yearly $60 for XBL Gold, even if you can get 12-month-download codes for $40 - $50.
The Xbox One X + 5 Gears games + 3 months game pass was already available for €275 (shipping + taxes included). This won't be the last deal for under $300 / €300 this holiday season. And all over the next year similar deals will be available when Microsoft and the retailers are trying to sell off the old stock to make space in the warehouses and on the shelves for the new console generation.
The $1 upgrade deal for GamePass Ultimate will probably go away soon, but it is naive to think that there won't be other good deals for GamePass or GamePass Ultimate in the future... Microsoft is very agressively trying to get as much people as possible into that subscription and I don't see that changing.
I also wanted to make it clear that the Scarlett ain't included in the $744 and we don't know how much the Scarlett-upgrade will cost, so we don't know the total costs.