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Aura7541 on 04 June 2015
Aeolus451 said:

You're wrong. It's a timed exclusive.

Spencer himself says it's a timed exclusive.
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2014/08/13/xboxs-phil-spencer-responds-tomb-raider-exclusivity-questions

The company itself has said that it's a timed exclusive.
http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/95495143805/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-faq

Combined with Kagari's info, there is too much evidence that points towards timed exclusivity. Phil Spencer even reiterated the timed exclusivity on Twitter not so long ago.

Also, Aeolus, if you want to single-space, hold shift while pressing enter



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Azuren on 04 June 2015
Aura7541 said:
sweetoothj said:

OK, why are people buying the next COD game, Next Madden game, Fifa game, ect... over a ps4? Yes, if someone likes GT games they will keep supporting the series regardless of a console launch. Sorry, truth hurts huh.

Again with the false equivalencies, eh? Heck, that's not even a false equivalency, it's a non sequitor!! If you cannot provide a valid argument, then I suggest that you stop posting. Also, read your first comment in this thread and compare it to your most recent one.

I can refute this if I want, but I think your post has already done that for me

EDIT: Just noticed Bell_Cranel's rebuttal. Not what I was going to refute with if I cared, but his statement is also very true.

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Aeolus451 on 04 June 2015
Aura7541 said:
Aeolus451 said:

You're wrong. It's a timed exclusive.

Spencer himself says it's a timed exclusive.
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2014/08/13/xboxs-phil-spencer-responds-tomb-raider-exclusivity-questions

The company itself has said that it's a timed exclusive.
http://tombraider.tumblr.com/post/95495143805/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-faq

Combined with Kagari's info, there is too much evidence that points towards timed exclusivity.

Also, Aeolus, if you want to single-space, hold shift while pressing enter


I'm aware of the "hold shift then press enter". I just wanted to leave spaces between the sentences in that post. It's a fact that's it is a timed exclusive. He just wants to believe otherwise in spite of the words/proof from Crystal Dynamics and Spencer.



darkenergy on 04 June 2015
JustBeingReal said:
darkenergy said:
JustBeingReal said:

It's disguting and what's worse is it's constantly ignored by the XBox guys!

The last exclusive game from Microsoft's 1st party was Kinect Sports Rivals, that released April last year, the next 1st party exclusive is Halo 5, that doesnt come out until October, thats 18 months without any 1st party exclusives on Xbox One, its beyond disgusting!!

Xbox One hasn't had an exclusive since Sunset Overdrive released, that was also an October released, so it's a full year between exclusives on Xbox One and Xbox Fans support that and wonder why PS4 is selling so much better, LMFAO!!

 

No Sony aren't in a similar position, because the last 1st party exclusive was Driveclub in October and PS4 doesn't have to wait a year from last October for it's next 1st party exclusive, because Tearaway Unfolded and Kill Strain are slated for the Summer time.

House stated that Sony's 1st party line-up is a little sparse, he didn't say that their exclusive line-up for 2015 is sparse and right now the only know 1st party exclusives coming in 2015 are Tearaway Unfolded and Kill Strain's, which gives room for more to be announced this year, because 2 games in a 12 month period is not even close to being "a little sparse" for output.

Bloodborne stopped being Niche when it sold as quickly as it did, over a million units is definitely no longer a niche title.

Halo 5 isnt interesting, its the same old 1st person shooter,

(Reads first line in bold, then reads the next bold part) 

LMFAO!!!

Dude, you just contradicted yourself after Kinect Sports Rival the next exclusive was Sunset Overdrive that was released 6 months later. There was no 18 months without exclusives. Oh not to mention games like Forza Horizon 2 and Halo the Master Chief Collection that was released within those holidays.

When I read the next bold I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post because if you played the beta for Halo 5(which you didnt) it is different from the rest of the Halo games it is not the same old game from the past 14/15 years. What about games like Uncharted when I played the game it is no different from other Uncharted games, I even feel like the second game is overrated. So I don't know why you consider those disgusting no one is really thinking that besides you.

You need to actually read my post, particularly the part you bolded.

I said it's 18 months since Microsoft released their last 1st party exclusive, Sunset Overdrive is a 2nd party game, not 1st party, so no I didn't contradict myself, you just didn't read what I wrote.

Talking about exclusives Xbox One doesn't have any new exclusives coming for a full year, because Sunset Overdrive was the last one and it will be until Halo 5 releases, remember it's October 2014 to October 2015, with no new XB1 exclusives coming in all of that time, that's a full 12 months.

Yes 18 months without a single 1st party exclusive is disgusting, loads of people agree with it, all over the internet, it's just that XBox guys attempt to tune that out, by acting like Xbox exclusive releases are all that matters and they somehow have them coming at times when they don't.

Maybe saying Halo was the same old thing was a bit strong, but it's still one of only 2 outright exclusives coming to the platform this year (that we know about so far), of course Halo 5 will have it's new story dynamic with Locke and it's using the traversal gameplay like COD:AW/Titanfall and some booster stuff to change up gameplay a bit, but it's hardly inventive, I guess it's probably pretty fun though and it does work for a man in an exosuit, TBH I think Halo should have had that kind of an element from the start given what Chief is.

Uncharted 4 seems to be massively opening up the environments, the series always adds new puzzles, additions to gameplay, new animations and a very compelling story, all seemlessly rolled in together, it's definitely not the same old thing, it's actually very inventive and a deep and solid series, hence why it always scores so well and constantly grows it's install base with each new release.

I stand by my point about Microsoft's lack of support for their platform, seriously I don't see how anyone can be happy (on a console), waiting for a year for new exclusives, it's terrible and XBox guys just stick their fingers in their ears acting like that isn't the case when it absolutely is.

Where are the new IPs as exclusives for XBox One this year?

Sony has The Order, Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Kill Strain, etc, there's smaller games like Rime and there's probably going to be even more games coming this Fall, which is what Sony execs suggest with their comments, like Andrew House stating that 2015 is the beginning of a harvest period for 1st party and Fergal Gara outright stating that Sony aren't concerned about their Fall line-up.

 

Master Chief Collection isn't an exclusive to XBox One, it's a collection of games from the 360 or OG Xbox.

Forza Horizon 2 is a cross platform release.

 

Seriously dude Microsoft needs to step it up, their support of exclusives on Xbox One has been absolutely terrible, we're half way through the year already and MS hasn't released a single one so far, that's poor!!


You only see it that way, for some people who own an X1(like me) this doesn't really seem the case. Microsoft already stated they will show more exclusives at E3 so they are already stepping up. Also where does it stated that everyone agrees that Microsoft first party lineup is discusting? Show me the forums because I check everywhere and I don't see them. Still Sunset Overdrive is still an exclusive regardless on who owns it it is available only on Xbox One, you can't spin that in anyway.



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Aeolus451 on 04 June 2015
Protendo said:
Aeolus451 said:

Where did ya see that? Here's a source for release dates on Magic Duels: Origins. 

 

Magic Duels: Origins

http://www.gameinformer.com/Themes/GameInformer/images/post-meta-separator.png) 100% 50% no-repeat;">Xbox One
Also on PC , iOS , PlayStation 4

    What am I missing?
"A new title, named Magic Duels: Origins, will launch later this year on both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One as well as on PC and tablet devices."


http://www.gameinformer.com/games/magic_duels_origins/b/xboxone/default.aspx

Look at the date. If that's not enough, use a search engine to find more of the same.



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Aura7541 on 04 June 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Aura7541 said:

Combined with Kagari's info, there is too much evidence that points towards timed exclusivity.

Also, Aeolus, if you want to single-space, hold shift while pressing enter

I'm aware of the "hold shift then press enter". I just wanted to leave spaces between the sentences in that post. It's a fact that's it is a timed exclusive. He just wants to believe otherwise in spite of the words/proof from Crystal Dynamics and Spencer.

Oh, sorry about that. I was just kinda annoyed at the spacing. Hyperlinking is a useful tool if you want to use that.



Aerys on 04 June 2015
darkenergy said:
Aerys said:


You dont even know that games available on other consoles cant be called exclusives ? Well, thats the real definition of exclusivity, a game that cant be made on an other platform my friend, a port/remaster/remake is not an exclusive, TLOU R, GOW 3 remaster, Uncharted Collection are not exclusive, a lot of people did the same mistake so i understand your confusion.


I'm pretty sure the Master Chief Collection isn't available on the 360 let alone Halo 2.

Im pretty sure Master chief collection is a collection of games already available on other platform, remake or not, there is no new game in this collection



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JustBeingReal on 04 June 2015
sweetoothj said:
JustBeingReal said:


Correction Bloodborne is a great exclusive, the highest rated exclusive from either PS4 or XBox One's library, Xbox One's still waiting to get anything exclusive this year.

As for Bloodborne being the only good retail exclusive, well Tearaway Unfolded is a retail exclusive, FYI the Vita game was regarded as a Game of the Year contender and the new game is not only  massively improved, but it also has a tonne of new content.

Fat Princess Adventures is another retail exclusive for PS4, the series always scores pretty well too and is regarded as very fun to play.

Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't an exclusive, it's coming to 360 at the same time it releases on XBox and it's most definitely coming to PS4 and PC after the Holidays.

So PS4 has at least 3 guaranteed good retail exclusives, XBox One has maybe 2 so far.

Sony also has a tonne of new games to announce at E3, Until Dawn could end up being great as well, then there's the enormous amount of other games comign to PS4, like Rime, Drawn to Death, Deep Down, Kill Strain, so what if they're not retail, they're still games, they're being developed by some of the best studios in the world and they're only coming to PS4.

Teraway is on the vita so it isn't exclusive, and fat princess doesn't score that well (less than 80 on metacritic). Also, its just an indie games. So it leaves you with Bloodborne. No ps4 version was announced for rise of tomb raider. Just wishful thinking, until it shows up it is exclusive to xbox systems. Also, there is a lot of games coming to xbox one as well. Unlike sony, microsoft tries to release accurate time frame for their games instead of waiting 5 years for a game. For example, where is TLOU? 

Tearaway Unfolded isn't a port, it's a remake of a game of the year, that's been built from the ground up for the PS4 over the last 2 years. FYI Media Molecule games usually score in the 90's on Metacritic, it's going to be a great game.

Fat Princess usually scores above a 74 which is technically good, that's above average, no it's not an indie, Santa Monica are involved in the games development, it's also being funded and published by Sony.

So what if a games an indie, at least it would be another title to add to a library of exclusives, PS4 has more AAA, AA and indies than XBox One.

As for Tomb Raider it's coming to PS4, seriously dude the games have always sold better on Playstation, it's the biggest audience, it's been outright stated by Phil Spencer that he never bought the IP or any kind of long term exclusive contract for the game, it's only ever been stated to be "exclusive to XBox for the Holidays" it's not even an Xbox One exclusive, you thinking this game isn't coming to PS4 or PS3 for that matter is the wishful thinking here pal.

LMFAO you really talked about games being announced too early, yet Quantum Break was announced in 2013 and there's still no solid release date for it?

TLOU was only delayed for a few months, Sony hasn't announced titles in years that are that far from release, hell Phantom Dust wasn't even in development when they released that CG trailer, Microsoft's whole E3 will mainly be about the games they announced at last year's E3 and stuff they've been talking about for the last 2 years, that isn't the case with Sony.

 

Seriously dude you're still waiting an entire year for any exclusive to come to Xbox One, that's utterly and unquestionably disgusting!



JustBeingReal on 04 June 2015
darkenergy said:
JustBeingReal said:
darkenergy said:
JustBeingReal said:

It's disguting and what's worse is it's constantly ignored by the XBox guys!

The last exclusive game from Microsoft's 1st party was Kinect Sports Rivals, that released April last year, the next 1st party exclusive is Halo 5, that doesnt come out until October, thats 18 months without any 1st party exclusives on Xbox One, its beyond disgusting!!

Xbox One hasn't had an exclusive since Sunset Overdrive released, that was also an October released, so it's a full year between exclusives on Xbox One and Xbox Fans support that and wonder why PS4 is selling so much better, LMFAO!!

 

No Sony aren't in a similar position, because the last 1st party exclusive was Driveclub in October and PS4 doesn't have to wait a year from last October for it's next 1st party exclusive, because Tearaway Unfolded and Kill Strain are slated for the Summer time.

House stated that Sony's 1st party line-up is a little sparse, he didn't say that their exclusive line-up for 2015 is sparse and right now the only know 1st party exclusives coming in 2015 are Tearaway Unfolded and Kill Strain's, which gives room for more to be announced this year, because 2 games in a 12 month period is not even close to being "a little sparse" for output.

Bloodborne stopped being Niche when it sold as quickly as it did, over a million units is definitely no longer a niche title.

Halo 5 isnt interesting, its the same old 1st person shooter,

(Reads first line in bold, then reads the next bold part) 

LMFAO!!!

Dude, you just contradicted yourself after Kinect Sports Rival the next exclusive was Sunset Overdrive that was released 6 months later. There was no 18 months without exclusives. Oh not to mention games like Forza Horizon 2 and Halo the Master Chief Collection that was released within those holidays.

When I read the next bold I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post because if you played the beta for Halo 5(which you didnt) it is different from the rest of the Halo games it is not the same old game from the past 14/15 years. What about games like Uncharted when I played the game it is no different from other Uncharted games, I even feel like the second game is overrated. So I don't know why you consider those disgusting no one is really thinking that besides you.

You need to actually read my post, particularly the part you bolded.

I said it's 18 months since Microsoft released their last 1st party exclusive, Sunset Overdrive is a 2nd party game, not 1st party, so no I didn't contradict myself, you just didn't read what I wrote.

Talking about exclusives Xbox One doesn't have any new exclusives coming for a full year, because Sunset Overdrive was the last one and it will be until Halo 5 releases, remember it's October 2014 to October 2015, with no new XB1 exclusives coming in all of that time, that's a full 12 months.

Yes 18 months without a single 1st party exclusive is disgusting, loads of people agree with it, all over the internet, it's just that XBox guys attempt to tune that out, by acting like Xbox exclusive releases are all that matters and they somehow have them coming at times when they don't.

Maybe saying Halo was the same old thing was a bit strong, but it's still one of only 2 outright exclusives coming to the platform this year (that we know about so far), of course Halo 5 will have it's new story dynamic with Locke and it's using the traversal gameplay like COD:AW/Titanfall and some booster stuff to change up gameplay a bit, but it's hardly inventive, I guess it's probably pretty fun though and it does work for a man in an exosuit, TBH I think Halo should have had that kind of an element from the start given what Chief is.

Uncharted 4 seems to be massively opening up the environments, the series always adds new puzzles, additions to gameplay, new animations and a very compelling story, all seemlessly rolled in together, it's definitely not the same old thing, it's actually very inventive and a deep and solid series, hence why it always scores so well and constantly grows it's install base with each new release.

I stand by my point about Microsoft's lack of support for their platform, seriously I don't see how anyone can be happy (on a console), waiting for a year for new exclusives, it's terrible and XBox guys just stick their fingers in their ears acting like that isn't the case when it absolutely is.

Where are the new IPs as exclusives for XBox One this year?

Sony has The Order, Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Kill Strain, etc, there's smaller games like Rime and there's probably going to be even more games coming this Fall, which is what Sony execs suggest with their comments, like Andrew House stating that 2015 is the beginning of a harvest period for 1st party and Fergal Gara outright stating that Sony aren't concerned about their Fall line-up.

 

Master Chief Collection isn't an exclusive to XBox One, it's a collection of games from the 360 or OG Xbox.

Forza Horizon 2 is a cross platform release.

 

Seriously dude Microsoft needs to step it up, their support of exclusives on Xbox One has been absolutely terrible, we're half way through the year already and MS hasn't released a single one so far, that's poor!!


You only see it that way, for some people who own an X1(like me) this doesn't really seem the case. Microsoft already stated they will show more exclusives at E3 so they are already stepping up. Also where does it stated that everyone agrees that Microsoft first party lineup is discusting? Show me the forums because I check everywhere and I don't see them. Still Sunset Overdrive is still an exclusive regardless on who owns it it is available only on Xbox One, you can't spin that in anyway.


What do you mean it doesn't seem like the case? That's how it is, Xbox One hasn't had a single new exclusive (by which I mean a game that's only on that one system) since Sunset Overdrive.

Microsoft said they're announcing a new IP at E3, maybe they'll announce more, but that doesn't change the games releasing so far this year. Absolute best case scenario Microsoft announces a game at E3 that releases there and then, but it's still over 6 months into this year with no new games that are only on Xbox One and they'd likely only do that with a smaller title, but I guess it would be something.

Since Sunset Overdrive was the last exclusive and that released on October it's been about 8 months without a single new XBox One exclusive, it's a common opinion among the people that are gamers, I'm not doing your work for you, it's happened on this Forum, I see the comments all the time.

I'm sure if I asked people to reply to me here in this very thread that they'd agree it's disgusting.

 

I own a 360 and an Original XBox, I didn't even own a PS2 during the 6th gen, I was mainly an XBox gamer back then and if my platform holder of choice didn't release a single exclusive on my system of choice for that long I'd be utterly disgusted, yet you put up with it, even act like it's fine and you're supporting that kind of treatment a company.

 

I didn't try to spin Sunset Overdrive into not being an exclusive, I said it was an exclusive, what I originally was talking about was that 1st party hadn't delivered a single exclusive, developed by a Microsoft owned studio to Xbox One for 18 months, which is true.

As far as new Xbox One exclusives there hasn't been a single one on the system for 8 months and if nothing is announced at E3 coming before October then you will have waited an entire year for a new exclusive to come to Xbox One.

 

There's no spin coming from me, I'm clearly point out that Xbox one hasn't had a single new exclusive since Sunset Overdrive released and you're apparently fine with that.

PS4 has had 2 exclusives since Driveclub released, one of which is the highest rated exclusive on either system.



Aerys on 04 June 2015
JustBeingReal said:

 

 

I didn't try to spin Sunset Overdrive into not being an exclusive, I said it was an exclusive, what I originally was talking about was that 1st party hadn't delivered a single exclusive, developed by a Microsoft owned studio to Xbox One for 18 months, which is true.


For now, it could change like Dead Rising 3 or Ryse since Sunset Overdrive is owned by Insomniac and they are opened to bring it on PC they said



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m