I think he means between the Xbox and ps4, Nintendo always has the highest rated no need to debate.

I am sorry, but my statement of fact is a statement of fact based on critical reception (aka Metacritic score). Sure, arguably that is also just a collection of personal tastes, but it is still the only tangible, measurable tool of quality that we have available.

Microsoft has a better lineup this year? Are we talking in terms of potential sales or quality. Because if it's the latter that's your personal opinion. PS4 has... Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Tearaway Unfolded, No Man's Sky, Dragon Quest Heroes, and Persona 5. That's fine to me. XBO has... Halo 5, State of Decay, ROTR, Forza 6, and Fable Legends. That's fine too. I don't think either lineup has some large advantage in quality. Sure you might like the XB1 lineup more, but again, personal preference. Bloodborne to me is a bigger deal than anything Microsoft or Nintendo has released but that's just my preference. I don't speak for the majority.

If we're talking sales then yeah, XB1's exclusive lineup will inevitably push more consoles. But not because it has more games, because it has precisely one game. Well the one that matters. Halo 5. Sure it's cute to think that Forza 6 or Fable or Tearaway is going to push consoles but they won't. Just like Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, and LBP3 did nothing for their consoles. Halo 5 will sell consoles. How many? I don't know, maybe a little, maybe a lot. I figured MCC would done a lot better than it did so *shrugs*.

Then there's 3rd party marketing deals where Sony has been utterly spanking Microsoft this gen. So far they have deals for Battlefront, Batman: Arkham Knight, and Metal Gear Solid V. I think (and I could be wrong) that Battlefront will sell more PS4s than any single exclusive will do for their respective console this year. Microsoft on the flip side has been doing a very poor job with their bundles. How long are they going to keep that Assassin's Creed Unity bundle in circulation? Where was the bundle for Evolve? Or The Witcher 3? What's going on with the Call of Duty deal?

Will Microsoft take the US? Maybe. If they keep heavily undercutting Sony in price this gen they may eke out a win. I don't know. We'll see.

Sony has won over the trust of gamers last gen, their exclusive games over the course of the generation blew away Microsofts imo, especially at the end.  Also Wii U has the weakest library out of the three, idk why people act like third parties don't count.

You don't buy a console at the beginning of the generation just for the games out then, you buy it for what the console will be by the end of the generation.

An opinion is an opinion is an opinion I guess. But whats important to note is that you certainly don't seem to think Sony has anything like the gaming advantage to justify the massive difference in sales.

I also think its important you raised the use of marketing deals. And it again goes to show how much marketing has impacted sales this generation, as opposed to the depth and breadth of games. Microsoft has done an appalling job with their marketing deals, Sony has done brilliantly.

This has always felt like a bit of a misnomer. Pound for pound the Xbox 360 had a tonne of amazing games, able to compete with just about any system, ever.

It was still releasing great games up until last year. 

Almost none of it is directed at you, except for arguing your titular statement that Microsoft is making a turnaround based on importance of games.

Because that is what I find contradictory, as I and several others have pointed out - PS4 has more games and a wider variety of games. I do not wish to turn this thread into a list war, but it is esentially what you are inviting...

To select a specific time period, and to select a specific sub-sector of games in that time period to try to argue that MS stresses importance of games is a bit counter-productive. To say that Japanese games are inconsequential or that indies do not count (not you specifically, but the general tone of the debate), and then to say that there is no difference in the sizes and choices within libraries is a bit selective (for lack of better word).

But you are basically trying to assign all of PS4's success on marketing , specifically in MS's PR blunders, which is not really true. The truth is that people have different tastes, and that tastes vary both demographically and geographically. And that PS4's library offers something for every specific market segment. Sometimes it's a great game, sometimes it's a bad game, sometimes it's a blockbuster and sometimes it's an artistic money-loser.

The way I see it (and I certainly don't want this to sound or look insulting or derogatory): Microsoft sees gaming through a US-centered "industry perspective" in which all that matters is to release a few blockbusters, while Sony tries to balance that segment (which is necessary no doubt) with an artistic offering aimed at few niche users at a time. Same as I see the movie industry today - an industry that almost completely shied away from anything that cannot double the profit over the first weekend (aka superheroes and teen romances), but still offering a few works of love that will keep small arthouse cinemas in business.

And as I said to you privately, I am done with bringing up the past, 2 years of holding a grudge against MS for ruining XBox for me is enough, and this is not an extension of that. It is simply a reaction to your title: Because it basically implies that PS4 is lacking in the games department. Just trying to argue the opposite.

Looking at my collections:

PS3:  Beyond, Demon Souls, Disgaea 3, 4, GoW3, Ascension, Heavy Rain, infamous, 2, Journey, Killzone 2, 3, MGS 4, NNK, PSAS, Puppeteer, R&C x 6, Sly Theives in Time, Tales of Graces, Xillia, 2, Last of us, Uncharted, 2, 3, Valkyria Chronicles, Resistance x3, GT5, WNC, 2=37

360: Blue Dragon, Crackdown, 2, Forza Horizon, Gears x 4, Halo x 5, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, kameo, Tales of Vesperia, SC Conviction, Viva Pinyata=19

37 vs 19 seems like a big difference to me.  

Edit:  Forgot LBP 1, 2, twisted metal, Starhawk make that 41.

Edit: Forgot B&C N&B, Alan Wake make that 21

Ouh... Wait a moment :

1) No, it's not the first time, at all. The ps2 had nothing the first year except fantavisionand SSX, while the dreamcast had LOT of great games, and ps2 still sold like crazy.

+ Wii was the best 7th gen selling console...And you really can't say she had the best games, or a large variety.

2) I disagree with you. You overestimate Xboxone games a lot. Both the ps4 and Xboxone had pretty much...nothing during the first year.

The first game who is really worth something on both systems is bloodborne actually.

the WiiU has great games yeah, but...not multiplat...and that's why most of normal players buy a console.

.Why are you using your own game collections to argue the 360 doesn't have great games?