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Never on 26 May 2015
JazzB1987 said:
Semmie said:
Pedophiles should all get killed period. If you talk good about them and have children yourself ypur sick. I do not appreciate them. And this phenomena has grown to the extend that people nowadays dont even dare to let their children play outside cause dem sick bastards walking around.

This topic is so sick that i really have a different view on users and regret that im a member. They are children dammit.

Yes they used to marry young back in the days. Man 13 with his 8 year old wife. But you cant compare that to a 50 year old with a 13. Or a 50 year abusing one. We should protect our children.

To hell with all pedophiles. As a matter of fact if a pedophile tries to get in my territory his life will end right there.

I know im agressive but im sure there are some herebwho have children and side with me on this

I pretty much think we all here agree that someone touching a child without the kid being okay with this is and should always result in painful punishment. (dick in meatgrinder  kind of punishment)

When does pedophilia stop in your opinion? I mean the age. When is a e.g 40 year old being in love with a "younger" person not pedophile anymore?  Age 12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21?


Pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. That's normally age 11 and under. 

What you seem to be talking about is age of consent which is more a case of legal praticality than some magic age where a switch is flicked in peoples brains and they're adults. 

There is no high tech scanner to detect when a person is capable of giving informed consent. There are many adults (Even 40 year old adults) who can't give informed consent or are vonrable to being groomed and abused. In fact a common technique empoyed by child abusers is to groom an adult who's nearer the age of the target children in order to use them to gain accesss to underage kids.

The law deals with the issue the simpliset way it can. It states an age and give blanket protection for all under it and leaves those above it to cope with limited legel defence.



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tak13 on 26 May 2015
JazzB1987 said:
tak13 said:
Mr.Playstation said:

First of all when mentioning pedophilia we're only referring to the act of an Adult being attracted to young children or prepubescent children ( mainly 11 years or younger ) not the actual act of abusing a child.

 

With this said, why does society on a whole see pedophilia as a mental disorder, rather than as a sexual orientation. The best reaction a person who's sexual orientation is pedophilia can have is to seek help, while the worst is that of being publically shamed even though the only crime this Adult person has committed is of being born in such a way that he is attracted to children.

 

Sure it shouldn't become legal but the negative stigma for this sexual orientation is pretty huge, when a person can't help himself since he was born this way.

 

Do you agree that society looks down too much on Pedophilia?

Is this hate justified? ( We're talking about the attraction to children not child abuse done by a person suffering from pedophilia )

Overall what do you think on Pedophilia ( The attraction not the act of child abuse )?

 

Disclaimer: Respect others people's opinion on the matter, therefore discuss the subject at hand like an adult and don't start calling other users names, if they have a different opinion from yours.

 

 

I'll post my opinion later but here is why it's mental disorder:

Development and sexual orientation

Pedophilia emerges before or during puberty, and is stable over time.[44] It is self-discovered, not chosen.[5] For these reasons, pedophilia has been described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation.[44] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses which cause harm to children.[45]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Does this not also work for being hetero?

You are hetero not because you chose to be a hetero but because it just happens? its self-discovered.  Being hetero can also lead to harm (when men rape women).

Do heteros have a mental disorder now? I mean you can also "teach" hetero people that they should stop being hetero and start to like same sex intercourse.

 Child rape is an aftermath of being pedophile,woman rape isn't because you're heterosexual though,It's related to other things,in my opinion some psycopathy but it can be also owed to other things,such  as anger,socioeconomics,drugs/intoxication e.t.c!You did a weird extrapolation and comparison!Why?



RenCutypoison on 26 May 2015
fluky-nintendy said:
RenCutypoison said:


That. People are not born with a defined sexuality. Anyway, anyone who's "affected" by pedophilia and is strong enough to resist his urges should not be looked down upon.

Renouncing on its own sexuality is not easy.

So what course of action should be taken if let's say someone comes out of the closet and says he or she is a pedophile? It's not exactly like being a homosexual that is attracted to same sex but adults.

I'm sorry but I can't see a pedophile as an orientation, I think it's a strong mental disorder that needs to be secluded.

Homosexuality used to be a mental disorder and pedophilia was acceptable. It's only a cultural thing.

Also does your comment suggest that all pedophiles are attracted to the same sex ? Technically it's only about 20%.



TheLastStarFighter on 26 May 2015

It's kinda like how society would frown upon someone who sits around and watches videos of kittens getting stabbed in the eyes with a pen and loves it. If you enjoy the idea of awful things, the rest of us aren't going to like it. That's how society works. At some point "born that way" doesn't cut it, and nothing about having a society says it needs to accept everyone. Evolution is about promoting desirable qualities, and enjoying the pain of others is not a desirable quality to most of us.



DonFerrari on 26 May 2015
tak13 said:
Mr.Playstation said:

First of all when mentioning pedophilia we're only referring to the act of an Adult being attracted to young children or prepubescent children ( mainly 11 years or younger ) not the actual act of abusing a child.

 

With this said, why does society on a whole see pedophilia as a mental disorder, rather than as a sexual orientation. The best reaction a person who's sexual orientation is pedophilia can have is to seek help, while the worst is that of being publically shamed even though the only crime this Adult person has committed is of being born in such a way that he is attracted to children.

 

Sure it shouldn't become legal but the negative stigma for this sexual orientation is pretty huge, when a person can't help himself since he was born this way.

 

Do you agree that society looks down too much on Pedophilia?

Is this hate justified? ( We're talking about the attraction to children not child abuse done by a person suffering from pedophilia )

Overall what do you think on Pedophilia ( The attraction not the act of child abuse )?

 

Disclaimer: Respect others people's opinion on the matter, therefore discuss the subject at hand like an adult and don't start calling other users names, if they have a different opinion from yours.

 

 

I'll post my opinion later but here is why it's mental disorder:

Development and sexual orientation

Pedophilia emerges before or during puberty, and is stable over time.[44] It is self-discovered, not chosen.[5] For these reasons, pedophilia has been described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation.[44] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses which cause harm to children.[45]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

We can teach a homo not to act on his impulse, so should homossexuality be considered a crime?



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BreedinBull on 26 May 2015

I always find it fascinating the shift in society. A hundred years back what is today known as pedophilia was just two people getting married and homosexuality could get you killed. Now it is almost the exact opposite. I am intrigued to see what the next 100 or so years bring. And the next 100 after that.



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amp316 on 26 May 2015

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DonFerrari on 26 May 2015
Zappykins said:
Because kids aren't really fully developed people or sexual beings yet.

Plus, they can't really consent. Like they can't drive a car or vote.

It's a creepy imbalance of power if an older more experienced person tries to manipulate them.

And someone 30 could manipulate and prey on a vunerable 50 person for sex and vice-versa. So what?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

JazzB1987 on 26 May 2015
tak13 said:
JazzB1987 said:
tak13 said:
Mr.Playstation said:

First of all when mentioning pedophilia we're only referring to the act of an Adult being attracted to young children or prepubescent children ( mainly 11 years or younger ) not the actual act of abusing a child.

 

With this said, why does society on a whole see pedophilia as a mental disorder, rather than as a sexual orientation. The best reaction a person who's sexual orientation is pedophilia can have is to seek help, while the worst is that of being publically shamed even though the only crime this Adult person has committed is of being born in such a way that he is attracted to children.

 

Sure it shouldn't become legal but the negative stigma for this sexual orientation is pretty huge, when a person can't help himself since he was born this way.

 

Do you agree that society looks down too much on Pedophilia?

Is this hate justified? ( We're talking about the attraction to children not child abuse done by a person suffering from pedophilia )

Overall what do you think on Pedophilia ( The attraction not the act of child abuse )?

 

Disclaimer: Respect others people's opinion on the matter, therefore discuss the subject at hand like an adult and don't start calling other users names, if they have a different opinion from yours.

 

 

I'll post my opinion later but here is why it's mental disorder:

Development and sexual orientation

Pedophilia emerges before or during puberty, and is stable over time.[44] It is self-discovered, not chosen.[5] For these reasons, pedophilia has been described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation.[44] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses which cause harm to children.[45]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Does this not also work for being hetero?

You are hetero not because you chose to be a hetero but because it just happens? its self-discovered.  Being hetero can also lead to harm (when men rape women).

Do heteros have a mental disorder now? I mean you can also "teach" hetero people that they should stop being hetero and start to like same sex intercourse.

 Child rape is an aftermath of being pedophile,woman rape isn't because you're heterosexual though,It's related to other things,in my opinion some psycopathy but it can be also owed to other things,such  as anger,socioeconomics,drugs/intoxication e.t.c!You did a weird extrapolation and comparison!Why?

What exactly is the harm done if its nothing that can be compared to (woman)rape? Would like to know.

I mean if a kid does not know  imo there is less harm done than if you rape a woman that tries to prevent it from happening.

And are you telling me that every type of sex between children + old people is automatically child rape? Not every pedophile is a raper as not every hetero is a raper. etc.

btw
How are the chances a gay (not bisexual and not some aliby married gay person) but a 100% gay man who outed himself would rape a women? Pretty low imo therefore it has something to do with sexual orientation.
or how are the chances a straight male would rape another straight male because of anger, drugs, socioeconomics etc?



FragilE^ on 26 May 2015
TheLastStarFighter said:
It's kinda like how society would frown upon someone who sits around and watches videos of kittens getting stabbed in the eyes with a pen and loves it. If you enjoy the idea of awful things, the rest of us aren't going to like it. That's how society works. At some point "born that way" doesn't cut it, and nothing about having a society says it needs to accept everyone. Evolution is about promoting desirable qualities, and enjoying the pain of others is not a desirable quality to most of us.


Evolution among humans is basically gone. "Born that way" always cuts it, because natural selection is barely a factor - more or less everyone reproduces. More or less everyone lives. Being born a certain way, is the explanation. Laws dictate the rest, but they are far too tame to make a difference.

If society gravitates to mass executions based on sexual preferences, then sure. But that is not the society we are living in today (some are, homosexuals in certain third world countries for example..). Do you think that is a better world? It could be, in certain ways. It could also be extremely horrible.

A lot of people enjoy a lot of awful things. So what? In India, mothers sell their kids to "love temples" as "holy prostitutes", who then "pray" with anyone who pays. That is accepted in many areas of the country. You and I would never say that was good, but that is the way it is. Do you think we should invade and kill them all? Let "evolution" take over?

 

Enjoying the pain of others? Most of the first world countries make fortunes on war. Our economy would not survive if demands for weapons disappeared. This is reality. We thrive on war. The meat industry, and every other industry involving animal products, race to be the cheapest. This means that animals across the world are treated like ore from the ground, and not living beings. Look in to the fur industry, for example. HUMANS THRIVE ON SUFFERING. That is reality.

I don't want to see children get hurt. I want criminal people to be punished. But I'm not gonna act like I'm holy or something, that I should start a crusade on "evil". That would be disgustlingly hypocritical of me.