Anti-abortion
ArchangelMadzz said:
And people who think helping people rather than punishing them as a way of encouraging it are stupid and they probably would've used drugs anyway. |
Encouraging was the wrong word, I just couldn't think of a word for "lack of discouragement" other than "encouragement". Essentially, if the reason some people don't use drugs is because of the threat of jail time, what would be the effect of removing that threat? (we need to remember that jail serves not only as a punishment for those who have broken the law but also as discouragement for other potential law breakers)
I think its a valid question to ask, however, I do think that we handle things quite badly as of now. While I think we should move towards what you are suggesting, I think there is a bit of a fine line and we need to be careful not to cross it...
RadiantDanceMachine said:
2. Not PRO abortion, PRO choice. No one is sitting there gleeful when they are getting an abortion like some diabolical super-villain. |
Speak for yourself.
ArchangelMadzz said:
Lack of consequences? I'm saying drugs should be legalised so we can help addicts instead of throwing them in prision. How can you disagree with both? If drugs are illegal you have to put them away. Unless you change the law... which would then make it legal.. |
Your first post on drugs were like people accidentely get addicted and shouldn't be burden by it... but now that you voiced it better I'm ok with it.
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DonFerrari said:
You were very disrespectful on 2 occasions on calling me ineducated on the matter and talking shovel. So yes you regard yourself superior. Yes there were cases of less than 22 weeks, so your argument that life is just after 24 weeks because that is when it can live in the outside world is lost or should retract (and keep retracting while science advances to support birth at even younger age). There is no such thing as not suffering at all from 80 years smoking, you can say they hadn't cancer or anything like that, but show a clean lungue from someone that smoke for 80 years (really smoked, not one cigar every blue moon). And cigars only affect the idiot smoking, so it's a completely different matter. |
Ineducated on the matter of abortion based on your descriptions which is a justifiable observation doesn't mean I regard myself as superior to you. That would require far more testing ;) I kid but you see my point.
You fail to understand, I said it's around 24 weeks, biology isn't set in stone. If I say, girls reach puberty at around the age 11 and a girl reaches it at 5 doesn't mean that I should say girls reach puberty at around the age of 5.
Fetus' develop at different rates , 24 weeks isn't said because it HAS to be 24 weeks it just means it's reached its independant state of development. Which USUALLY takes 24 weeks. If it reaches it at 22 weeks it is LIFE.
But you knew that, you just felt like making a point right?
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ArchangelMadzz said:
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Basic biology is that when a sperm(haploid) and egg(haploid) meter and form full DNA (zygote) then another person is created..ask any forensic scientist who uses DNA evidence to solve a crime...
i am agree on abortion if the pregnancy is under 4 month and because of healthy reason, or if the woman cannot give birth for a safety reason.
at 4 month pregnancy the unborn child already have their souls inside and consider a live, that's why they have already their human rights.
marioboy2004 said:
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Anyone 11 year old could tell you that, I'm not sure where the contradiction is?
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SanAndreasX said:
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So the entire life of the baby only invoves the 9 months in the mothers woumb? We have to think what also happens after the kid is born and the father is almost as involve in raising a kid as the mother. The life people keep claiming thats being denied with an abortin starts after the baby is born and the father is a prime member of the family. A family could be good without one, but as studies show, its not recomended.
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DonFerrari said:
Your first post on drugs were like people accidentely get addicted and shouldn't be burden by it... but now that you voiced it better I'm ok with it. |
My first post literally said " I don't understand putting heroin addicts in prison and turning them into hard criminals when they leave instead of just giving them help because addiction fucking sucks and no one chooses addiction?"
That's the same thing what I said above?
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