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think-man on 23 May 2015

Gen 8.5 in 2017 gen 9 in 2019



 

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bunchanumbers on 23 May 2015
curl-6 said:

2016 for NX, 2019 for Xbox Zero/PS5


If that happened and NX is more powerful than the twins it would be a big deal. It would mean that Nintendo would have the superior versions of multiplats for a few years.



curl-6 on 24 May 2015
Ruler said:
curl-6 said:

2016 for NX, 2019 for Xbox Zero/PS5

What you mean?

Just a joke about Xbox's illogical name progression.



curl-6 on 24 May 2015
bunchanumbers said:
curl-6 said:

2016 for NX, 2019 for Xbox Zero/PS5

If that happened and NX is more powerful than the twins it would be a big deal. It would mean that Nintendo would have the superior versions of multiplats for a few years.

Not necessarily; Wii U is more powerful than PS3/360 yet it got mostly inferior multiplats. Xbox One beats PS4 in some multiplats despite being weaker hardware. It depends on whether the developer can be arsed putting the work into leveraging that extra power. (Unless of course it's hugely more powerful and can beat them in its  sleep, which I seriously doubt)



bunchanumbers on 24 May 2015
curl-6 said:
bunchanumbers said:

If that happened and NX is more powerful than the twins it would be a big deal. It would mean that Nintendo would have the superior versions of multiplats for a few years.

Not necessarily; Wii U is more powerful than PS3/360 yet it got mostly inferior multiplats. Xbox One beats PS4 in some multiplats despite being weaker hardware. It depends on whether the developer can be arsed putting the work into leveraging that extra power. (Unless of course it's hugely more powerful and can beat them in its  sleep, which I seriously doubt)


But there were issues. Wii U didn't have the processor speed that the old twins had, so it meant that multiplats had to be worked differently to make up for the deficiency. If NX is more powerful than the twins out of the box, then there is no reason why the multiplats wouldn't be better on NX.



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curl-6 on 24 May 2015
bunchanumbers said:
curl-6 said:

Not necessarily; Wii U is more powerful than PS3/360 yet it got mostly inferior multiplats. Xbox One beats PS4 in some multiplats despite being weaker hardware. It depends on whether the developer can be arsed putting the work into leveraging that extra power. (Unless of course it's hugely more powerful and can beat them in its  sleep, which I seriously doubt)

But there were issues. Wii U didn't have the processor speed that the old twins had, so it meant that multiplats had to be worked differently to make up for the deficiency. If NX is more powerful than the twins out of the box, then there is no reason why the multiplats wouldn't be better on NX.

But NX could also have a different power balance, like Wii U; more capable overall, but less in certain areas.

NX might have more RAM and a better CPU, but slightly less GPU compute units. Or a better GPU/CPU but less RAM.

Unless you mean it's significantly more powerful in every single area. That I personally don't see happening.



bunchanumbers on 24 May 2015
curl-6 said:
bunchanumbers said:

But there were issues. Wii U didn't have the processor speed that the old twins had, so it meant that multiplats had to be worked differently to make up for the deficiency. If NX is more powerful than the twins out of the box, then there is no reason why the multiplats wouldn't be better on NX.

But NX could also have a different power balance, like Wii U; more capable overall, but less in certain areas.

NX might have more RAM and a better CPU, but slightly less GPU compute units. Or a better GPU/CPU but less RAM.

Unless you mean it's significantly more powerful in every single area. That I personally don't see happening.

The only thing that I could see NX lacking would be RAM. Nintendo historically has had low ram in their systems. Otherwise spec wise, both of the twins should be easily within the reach of NX.



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curl-6 on 24 May 2015
bunchanumbers said:
curl-6 said:

But NX could also have a different power balance, like Wii U; more capable overall, but less in certain areas.

NX might have more RAM and a better CPU, but slightly less GPU compute units. Or a better GPU/CPU but less RAM.

Unless you mean it's significantly more powerful in every single area. That I personally don't see happening.

The only thing that I could see NX lacking would be RAM. Nintendo historically has had low ram in their systems. Otherwise spec wise, both of the twins should be easily within the reach of NX.

I don't expect NX to have a GPU that's better than the one in the PS4.

Nintendo tend to fall short of the strongest part of its last gen competitor, even if it's more capable overall; Wii U has a weaker CPU than PS3/360, Wii had a less flexible GPU than the original Xbox, 3DS has a lower resolution than the PSP. Continuing this pattern I expect NX to fall short of PS4 in at least one of its two strongest areas; GPU and RAM.



bunchanumbers on 24 May 2015
curl-6 said:
bunchanumbers said:
curl-6 said:

But NX could also have a different power balance, like Wii U; more capable overall, but less in certain areas.

NX might have more RAM and a better CPU, but slightly less GPU compute units. Or a better GPU/CPU but less RAM.

Unless you mean it's significantly more powerful in every single area. That I personally don't see happening.

The only thing that I could see NX lacking would be RAM. Nintendo historically has had low ram in their systems. Otherwise spec wise, both of the twins should be easily within the reach of NX.

I don't expect NX to have a GPU that's better than the one in the PS4.

Nintendo tend to fall short of the strongest part of its last gen competitor, even if it's more capable overall; Wii U has a weaker CPU than PS3/360, Wii had a less flexible GPU than the original Xbox, 3DS has a lower resolution than the PSP. Continuing this pattern I expect NX to fall short of PS4 in at least one of its two strongest areas; GPU and RAM.

Oddly enough I'm thinking that the gpu will be its biggest strength, unless they find a way to include HBM in NX. This is assuming that AMD is the chip maker and that they are going with the next gen APU that AMD was talking about. Of course its all speculation, but If NX is what AMD is saying it is, then I think it should be pretty good.