Well God loves to make things more complicated I guess :P

The bible represents reduced freedom for people, that they shall stop think rationally and logically, it is judgmental and focuses more on condemning acts than promoting peoples own choices. That it also promotes love doesn't take away from the other parts. It only makes the book progressive in its own time, but not today.

What I find so OP about this is that you can be the cruelest sadist ever, yet if you truly ask for forgiveness at the very end of your life, you'll be granted it.

My grandparents told me that the highest virtue that a christian can have is charity.
I'm from a third world country but christians over there, are way more progressive than here in the US.

had to reply to this but hitler was a humanist/atheist and i can't really think of anyone that disputes this

its funny that people believe that without religion we'd be living in utopia when the regimes that have killed the most people were humanistic/atheistic

"so it doesn't shock me the least bit that people would be persuaded to believing a bunch of made up nonsense that's against the Bible."

well from my perspective christians generally do not understand their own religion so how could outsiders expect to be any better?

I've read the Bible and Quran multiple times and they both contain valid life lessons, interesting tales, pseudo-science and grotesque violence. No one has the capacity to remember all the texts and literary works associated with Christianity or any other religion for that matter. But even if they do, I doubt they would effect their behavior more than cultural memes.

well, he was a dictator that valued nothing over his own opinion, in that sense he was focussed on human agency

but I don't think giving him the humanist label is accurate, as he didn't care for individual humans at all, only for the community and in that sense could be described to have communistic tendencies, yet all his policies aimed at generating a great and powerful army to expand his sphere of influence, hence he is a fascist

The bibel contradicts itself also has nasty passages in it. Translation is not clear. Christians have so many branches and they disagree on alot. Today only thr good values are being propagated. it has positive messages however i think it depends on the people.

"he didn't care for individual humans at all, only for the community and in that sense could be described to have communistic tendencies"

well i would argue that many of the goals of humanism are communistic rather than beneficial for the individual

some of the goals of humanism are the individual setting their own morality, elimination of poverty, world unity etc etc etc

now if everyone sets their own morality then yes this obviously gives everyone more agency there's no doubt here, however:

how can poverty be eliminated if not by taxing the middle class to uplift the poor? eventually what happens because of this is that the middle class and those in poverty are fused into one class with a large government presiding over them setting the rules and taxing the crap out of them

subsequently this results in a loss of self determination for individuals

world unity can only be acheived by eliminating individual nations and uniting them all under one power meaning that individual nations will eventually lose their own self determination

the main point i'm driving at here is that yes some espects of humanism aid agency but others are antithetical to it

i'd like to add too that hitler was a socialist but the thing is that socialism ultimately leads to communism in the end partially because of what i mentioned earlier and one of the main sources of these ideologies was plato

Hitler was a humanist?  As in someone who valued human life?  Seriously?  

Hitler was very clearly not a humanist, and we have no evidence to suggest he was an atheist.  In any public statement Hitler ever made, he adhered to Christianity.  He argued for religious instruction, had close ties with the catholic church, had a large personal library of books regarding Jesus which were all well worn.

“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”

“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be
wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”

“….the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil
assumes the living shape of the Jew.”

But actions speak louder than words, yeah?  Let's check out some of the banned books in Germany...

"6. Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Haeckel)."
- Guidelines from Die Bucherei 2:6 (1935), page 279.

Darwinism was banned.

"c) All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk."

- Blacklist for Public Libraries and Commercial Lending Libraries
Fighting League for German Culture: Guidelines
(Source: Stadtbibliothek Koblenz, 1993; pp. 5-7)

Anything that was against Christianity was banned.

Hitler never spoke against god or against Jesus.  He did speak against Christianity as an institution, although these quotes all come from one book, Hitler's Table Talk.  This book relies on anecdotal accounts, and there are passages that were entirely made up from the translator of the French version, which the English version is based on.  

Of course, whether or not you believe Hitler was a Christian will depend on your definition of Christianity.  If believing in Jesus makes you a Christian, then, yeah he probably was.  Hitler made some changes that definitely go against the normal practice of Christianity, so you could make an argument that, while a believer, he would not qualify as a Christion.  There is some limited information to suggest Hitler was a pagan, but there is really nothing to suggest that he was an atheist.  So, now that you know better, quit repeating that BS.

And, if Hitler WAS an atheist, then I'd have to wonder why he was so invested in lying about it.  Even IF he was an atheist in his private life, then we have to wonder why Hitler felt it necessary to publicly promote the Church so strongly.  Hitler did not simply tolerate Christianity in public, he encouraged it, and wanted religious instruction in all schools.  So, why would a man who privately thought religion was BS, and publicly wanted to kill millions of people, be so invested in promoting (his version of) Christianity?