o_O.Q said:
had to reply to this but hitler was a humanist/atheist and i can't really think of anyone that disputes this its funny that people believe that without religion we'd be living in utopia when the regimes that have killed the most people were humanistic/atheistic
"so it doesn't shock me the least bit that people would be persuaded to believing a bunch of made up nonsense that's against the Bible." well from my perspective christians generally do not understand their own religion so how could outsiders expect to be any better? |
Hitler was a humanist? As in someone who valued human life? Seriously?
Hitler was very clearly not a humanist, and we have no evidence to suggest he was an atheist. In any public statement Hitler ever made, he adhered to Christianity. He argued for religious instruction, had close ties with the catholic church, had a large personal library of books regarding Jesus which were all well worn.
“I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord’s work.”
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
are plundered and exposed.”
“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so”
“Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be
wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in
a fanatical outlook.”
“….the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil
assumes the living shape of the Jew.”
But actions speak louder than words, yeah? Let's check out some of the banned books in Germany...
"6. Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Haeckel)."
- Guidelines from Die Bucherei 2:6 (1935), page 279.
Darwinism was banned.
"c) All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk."
- Blacklist for Public Libraries and Commercial Lending Libraries
Fighting League for German Culture: Guidelines
(Source: Stadtbibliothek Koblenz, 1993; pp. 5-7)
Anything that was against Christianity was banned.
Hitler never spoke against god or against Jesus. He did speak against Christianity as an institution, although these quotes all come from one book, Hitler's Table Talk. This book relies on anecdotal accounts, and there are passages that were entirely made up from the translator of the French version, which the English version is based on.
Of course, whether or not you believe Hitler was a Christian will depend on your definition of Christianity. If believing in Jesus makes you a Christian, then, yeah he probably was. Hitler made some changes that definitely go against the normal practice of Christianity, so you could make an argument that, while a believer, he would not qualify as a Christion. There is some limited information to suggest Hitler was a pagan, but there is really nothing to suggest that he was an atheist. So, now that you know better, quit repeating that BS.
And, if Hitler WAS an atheist, then I'd have to wonder why he was so invested in lying about it. Even IF he was an atheist in his private life, then we have to wonder why Hitler felt it necessary to publicly promote the Church so strongly. Hitler did not simply tolerate Christianity in public, he encouraged it, and wanted religious instruction in all schools. So, why would a man who privately thought religion was BS, and publicly wanted to kill millions of people, be so invested in promoting (his version of) Christianity?
