Christianity is Anti-Hatred of People or Groups of People

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Lafiel said:

o_O.Q said:

Dulfite said:
People view Christianity as hate, in many cases, because of a couple different reasons; they think people that call themselves Christians actually makes them Christians (this includes Hitler, at one point apparently, and millions/billions of others) when, in fact, one needs Christ in their hearts as their savior to be saved. Then and only then will someone's life start to change drastically towards being more Christlike. Here in the u.s. I believe we have more Americanism than Christinity; people say for God and country all the time but then do things that very much is pro U.S. but contradictory to what the Bible says for us to do. People that call themselves Christians yet don't follow Christ's model are probably not truly saved (not to be specific, because I don't know peoples hearts) but that Kansas "church group" that screams at people all the time would be an example here. Lastly, the Bible predicted accurately almost thousands of years ago that people would despise Christians and what we stand for, so it doesn't shock me the least bit that people would be persuaded to believing a bunch of made up nonsense that's against the Bible.

had to reply to this but hitler was a humanist/atheist and i can't really think of anyone that disputes this

its funny that people believe that without religion we'd be living in utopia when the regimes that have killed the most people were humanistic/atheistic

well, he was a dictator that valued nothing over his own opinion, in that sense he was focussed on human agency

but I don't think giving him the humanist label is accurate, as he didn't care for individual humans at all, only for the community and in that sense could be described to have communistic tendencies, yet all his policies aimed at generating a great and powerful army to expand his sphere of influence, hence he is a fascist

"he didn't care for individual humans at all, only for the community and in that sense could be described to have communistic tendencies"

well i would argue that many of the goals of humanism are communistic rather than beneficial for the individual

some of the goals of humanism are the individual setting their own morality, elimination of poverty, world unity etc etc etc

 

now if everyone sets their own morality then yes this obviously gives everyone more agency there's no doubt here, however:

 

how can poverty be eliminated if not by taxing the middle class to uplift the poor? eventually what happens because of this is that the middle class and those in poverty are fused into one class with a large government presiding over them setting the rules and taxing the crap out of them

subsequently this results in a loss of self determination for individuals

 

world unity can only be acheived by eliminating individual nations and uniting them all under one power meaning that individual nations will eventually lose their own self determination

 

the main point i'm driving at here is that yes some espects of humanism aid agency but others are antithetical to it

 

i'd like to add too that hitler was a socialist but the thing is that socialism ultimately leads to communism in the end partially because of what i mentioned earlier and one of the main sources of these ideologies was plato