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GTAIV is suppose to ship 6 million copies its first week and sell 9 million copies this year.  What do you guys/gals think?  Seems kinda high to me.

 

GTA IV to sell 9m units, ship 6m in first week

Matt Martin 13:44 (BST) 12/03/2008

But title masks poor Take-Two portfolio, says Wedbush

With the highly-anticipated title Grand Theft Auto IV due for release late next month, Wedbush Morgan has said that it expects the game to sell over nine million units during the fiscal year, and that Take-Two is likely to ship six million of those in the first week of sale.

The analyst predicts the game will be responsible for around USD 450 million of Take-Two's expected USD USD 1.073 billion publishing revenue this year, generating USD 135 million of the company's operating profit.

But the expected success of the title does not compensate for the poor portfolio of titles for 2008 and 2009, says Wedbush's Michael Pachter, as Take-Two fails to produce timely sequels to its popular franchises, and delays key releases.

"As we look at Take-Two's line-up, we see GTA IV, and several games that look much like Take-Two games from past years," commented Pachter.

"We are fans of Midnight Club, but question the decision to delay the game's launch into the competitive Burnout and Need for Speed window as ill-advised. We also note that the Q4 2008 launch of Midnight Club will mark three and-a-half years between versions of the game, highlighting Take-Two’s failure to "sequelise" its key franchises on a regular basis."

Pachter pointed out that of Take-Two's touted franchises, the last Max Payne game was released in late 2003, Red Dead Revolver in May 2004 and Mafia in January 2004.

"Unless management surprises us, sequels to these key franchises will require five or more years of development," he said, noting that Max Payne 2 isn't due for release until 2009.

The analyst also remains unimpressed with other titles already announced by Take-Two, including Top Spin 3, Don King Presents: Prizefighter and Carnival Games: Mini Golf. "These games appear to us like the Manhunt, BIGS, All-Pro Football, Ghost Rider and Fantastic Four games of last year, when the company generated a net operating loss of more than USD 100 million," he said.

On the subject of the EA's proposal to acquire Take-Two, Pachter expects a resolution before the publisher's AGM on April 10, possibly even before the end of the month.

"We expect that in order to save face, Take-Two management will withdraw its demand that any discussions wait until after the launch of GTA IV, and we think that management will engage in discussions with EA," he said.

"We think that EA prefers to complete a friendly deal, and think that it is possible that Take-Two management can convince EA of the extent to which EA may have undervalued Take-Two shares, and believe that as a conciliatory gesture, EA management may be prepared to increase its likely USD 26 offer to somewhere close to USD 27."

"Again, we think investors will jump at the offer," he concluded.



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6 million PS3 copies.
3 million Xbox 360 copies.



How well did the last one do? Did it get anywhere near this? This seems a little high to me, but I do not know.



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Max Payne 2 isn't due for release until '09? I played it two or three years ago... he must mean 3.

@Kazadoom: All of the GTA's last generation sold nearly 20 million. I predict 75% of these 6 million will sell first week or more.



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I guess for me, I'm just looking at it this way:

08' Year End Installed Bases (Estimates):
360: Around 25 million
PS3: Around 22 million

Total: 47 million

9 million copies sold would be 19.15% Attach rate...I just don't think it will have that high of an attach rate.

And then, you probably cut that installed base by 25% or more because of people that own BOTH consoles...they'll only get it one one of them (like me).

So then, you're looking at a total of 35 million potential buyers...then you have a 25.5% attach rate.  Just seems high to me.

But, I could very well be wrong.  I actually hope it does really well.



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gta4 will sell a lot, mabey a bit more on 360 but will certainly sell loads

 

its a good game the gta series but its not my kind of "buy it now" type of game



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Not sure I like the idea of "sequelise" but over 5 years of development time on Red Dead Revolver?



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Is there an actual quote from a Take Two executive in that article?

It looks like a load of sh*t analyst guesswork... and I have zero faith in analysts at this point.



Words Of Wisdom said:
Is there an actual quote from a Take Two executive in that article?

It looks like a load of sh*t analyst guesswork... and I have zero faith in analysts at this point.

Lol, I agree.

No I think this is just analyst predictions (Pachter)...and I think they're high.



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I have the eerie feeling that this game isn't going to be as huge as Take-Two is expecting. I'm predicting that they will be sorely disappointed at sales.