think-man said: Do indie games count? |
I personally dont count them, on any console.
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2015 the weakest line up so far? | |||
definately | 106 | 47.32% | |
nope | 76 | 33.93% | |
on par | 42 | 18.75% | |
Total: | 224 |
think-man said: Do indie games count? |
I personally dont count them, on any console.
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Too early for this thread. E3 is less than a month away and I'm sure, as always, Nintendo is holding a lot of stuff in their sleeves. We do know that there is one missing AAA title to be released this year that we don't know about - other than StarFox, XCX
It has been pathetic so far this year, lets be honest here.
Miyamotoo said:
$350m profit isn't small, also were you find 4 years of losses? -2012. first loss ever for Nintendo - 43,204 million yen -2013. profit - 7,099 million yen -2014. second loss - 23,222 million yen -2015. profit - 41,843 million yen (around $350m) They made a profit this year due to cutting cost, but also changing business and operating models, and now they making much bigger profit with similar revenue. I can't see why they can't do same thing for next 2 years. For current year they aiming similar profit like in 2014., around $300m. Why do you think they not investing in their future!? Last year or two they keep talking about new staffs, services, new console, new business models.. |
4 years of OPERATING losses- the money they made the 2 years yo pointed out were do to favorable yen/dollar exhange rates but the actual operating entity lost money-
They will probably stay close to small losses and or small profits the next 2 years- i doubt they will have big profit or loss the next 2 years
the reason i say they have not been investing much is due to their operating budget continuing to be lower every year- they can invest outside their operaating budget and i don t know the varius accounting rules for the Nikkie exchange but Nintenod as a compnay has shrunk tremendously over the last 4 to 5 years and is still smaller than it was even during th egame cube years aomong others
What they do for the next genertion is critical for them to start growing revenue and market share again- (profits too)
curl-6 said:
Splatoon Yoshi’s Woolly World Mario Maker Rodea: The Sky Soldier LEGO Dimensions LEGO Jurassic World Guitar Hero Live Fatal Frame 5 Devil’s Third FAST Racing Neo Project CARS Starfox Project Treasure The Mighty No.9 Swords and Soldiers II Xenoblade Chronicles X Shin Megami Tensai x Fire Emblem The 90s Arcade Racer The Legend of Kay Anniversary Zelda (+ Multiple unannounced titles confirmed) |
Lego Marvel´s Avengers
Disney Infinity 3.0
Miyamoto´s Projects (Project Guard, Project Giant Robo)
and a loooong list of indies (Never Alone, OctoDad, The Bridge, Don´t Starve etc etc etc etc etc)
Dunban67 said:
4 years of OPERATING losses- the money they made the 2 years yo pointed out were do to favorable yen/dollar exhange rates but the actual operating entity lost money- They will probably stay close to small losses and or small profits the next 2 years- i doubt they will have big profit or loss the next 2 years the reason i say they have not been investing much is due to their operating budget continuing to be lower every year- they can invest outside their operaating budget and i don t know the varius accounting rules for the Nikkie exchange but Nintenod as a compnay has shrunk tremendously over the last 4 to 5 years and is still smaller than it was even during th egame cube years aomong others What they do for the next genertion is critical for them to start growing revenue and market share again- (profits too) |
So basically, they depends on exchange rates?
Wow, this gen should end sooner than expected.
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This can't really be answered until 2015 is over. I mean, you dismissed someone's list out of hand because "many of these titles could easily be delayed to 2016". What if they aren't?
Also, what if Nintendo has a 2015 game to announce at E3? What if some of their 2015 games turn out to be unexpectedly good, or bad? We'll just have to see.
Dunban67 said:
4 years of OPERATING losses- the money they made the 2 years yo pointed out were do to favorable yen/dollar exhange rates but the actual operating entity lost money- They will probably stay close to small losses and or small profits the next 2 years- i doubt they will have big profit or loss the next 2 years the reason i say they have not been investing much is due to their operating budget continuing to be lower every year- they can invest outside their operaating budget and i don t know the varius accounting rules for the Nikkie exchange but Nintenod as a compnay has shrunk tremendously over the last 4 to 5 years and is still smaller than it was even during th egame cube years aomong others What they do for the next genertion is critical for them to start growing revenue and market share again- (profits too) |
Isn't Net Income bottom of line!?
Exhange rates yes, but point is that they made money at end, and not lost.
For me $350m profit for 2014. looks like very good, especially if know they have lost for around $250m in 2013.
Bottom of line they stabilize their business, they dont bleeding money and they now operating with profit, so they don't have to rush with new consoles on market. I think after Wii U, too rushed new console would be very bad for them, but luckily they don't need to rush.
There is no question that Nintendo IS NOT in danger of going BK - So I agree with you that they are not in financial trouble- My point is their primary business has been shrinking for years and losing money or break even the last 4- Nintendo today is a shell of the company it was only 4-5 years ago and has continued on a downward direction since before the Wii and DS-
IMO Iwata was so concerned with getting the earning back to break even or profit that he sacrificed the WII U/this gen, overall market share and at least some aspects of the future to do so-
It's over there, take a look.
(points to the distant horizon).