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Also women have lost the ability to make men feel like men. This is a direct result of feminist ideology and agenda. They want to eviscerate the natural and social order of the sexes. Men are also becoming less and less like gentlemen and don't know how to treat a lady. Many are still surprised in my European country when I offer to pay for their drinks on our first date.

I want a woman who can make me feel like a man. I don't want a genderless relationship.



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To call it a crisis is a bit alarmist, but I do agree that a number of new influences are drastically affecting how kids develop, and not just in the area of masculinity. Kids today are getting a lot of weird new stimulus that's probably going to lead to some messed up adults in a few years.



Conegamer said:
Well I've never felt more manly.

In all seriousness I've read the article and am a bit perplexed by this "crisis" they refer to. It all seems rather extreme and it involves taking the extremist cases, too. I concede there's a problem surrounding the way some men view themselves and more importantly view women, but I'm not sure if this study is necessarily reflective of that.


Sometimes you have to change your viewpoint from youself to others. Or invert that if necessary. 



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DarthVolod said:

I did like that Zimbardo at least had a nugget of truth buried in the article when he describes media as presenting men as fat slobs only interested in sex. If you create a culture that detests men then don't be surprised when men reject that culture and cast aside traditional institutions like school and marriage.

I grew up with a mother that always said all men were bad, pretty much rapists to be if they had the slightest chance.
That had a far bigger effect on my social development than any porn. I had no clue how to approach a girl, just do not think about sex cause she doesn't want it. Plus allways the warnings about child molestors, every man near a park or school is suspicious, men flashing their stuff in public, visiting whores etc. I though I was going to grow up to become some sort of monster.

Oh well, now we'll add all porn is bad to the list, causes erectile dysfunction and social apathy together with video games.
I guess I'll isolate myself  and go read some more books, pretty much how I spend my early life before video games got me to socialize with friends....



Thanks for posting that Curl-6.
I actually think it holds a lot of relevance. I see it all over the place. When conducting interviews, volunteering, dealing, generally, with teens in many ways.
It's certainly not with everyone, but it does seem to carry some merit. Even as a 33 year old, reflecting back, things are quite different now in many ways.



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Ruler said:
What a bunch of nonesense, having a girlfriend can cause heavier masculinity crisis than porn and videogames lol


Wow, you completely missed the point. It's completely different. It's about the interactions between the same and opposite sex. How people are treated, what is socially acceptable and what isn't. It isn't just videogames though, it's the general lack of social interaction, especially with the opposite sex. The people afflicted with this, likely won't have a girl friend unless they are excessively submissive. 



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reggin_bolas said:
Yeah I don't need that, I'm a trained social scientist.

And I don't mean to be smug with it either it's just the bell curve isn't what I'm interested in. I'm beginning to form an hypothesis that porn is universally wrong and deleterious. I'm more interested in how many times per week/month you would consider normative. Feel free to speculate. I would say it's okay once every 6 months.

have you seen the ugly girls on tinder? you need a lot of porn after that to not get some problems down below



S.T.A.G.E. said:

If masculinity is a problem, generally speaking, its because of estrogen being in a lot of our products. Yes, there is a social problem, but videogames do not hurt the risk, reward system nor does porn lead to erectile dysfunction. Socially awkward teenagers are going to be socially awkward teenagers and perhaps videogames give them a distraction from the world, but they are making the decision themselves to play them.

The real problem with male masculinity to me is being in an estrogen induced environment. Japan plays less games these days than they did in the past and yet they are STILL having an issue with mating, marriage and childbirth. Third world countries are not having this problem. Hmmmm....I wonder why?

P.S.

The system in which we live seems to fear an equal and balanced society between males and females.

That's a really good point. It very well could be just a 'side affect' of what you already laid out, quite possibly NOT the cause. Either way, it's worth doing more research into. 



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SvennoJ said:
"When I'm with a girl, I'll wish I was watching pornography, because I'll never get rejected."

And that's only the male's fault?
In this society where sex is taught to be bad, boys want nothing but sex, sex will kill you, proper girls don't have sex, etc etc. We have a risk of overpopulation anyway, free internet porn for everybody to control the population!

There was no internet porn when I grew up, had to do it all by myself. Didn't slow me down in the slightest...

Anyway another study that confirms, anything consumed in over abundance can be bad for you, shocker.
Teach how to moderate yourself in school, not simply that everything that's fun is bad.


If you are being taught that sex is bad, you need to find a way to get some proper teaching on it. You should also likely report this. 

Basically it's spiderman syndrome. With great power comes great responsibilty. That is how sex should be looked at lol. It's wicked, awesome, fantastic, and amazing. But it's necessary to control it because there can be some serious consequences to it. It is in no way bad. 

A rather random incident that sort of goes with this. : an apprentice of a good friend of mine was in a long, albeit sort of mentall abusive relationship (he was being somewhat domineered by his girlfriend). Anyway, the relationship ended, not a bad thing. But he decided to help himself move on from the relationship by going to a bad and finding a girl to... 'work out his sexual frustraitions with'. This was only the third girl he had ever been with, first one night stand and he ended up walkting away with... genital warts :-/  Poor guy. Had to get a needle and the doc told him it could last upwards of 6 months. Pretty rough, if you ask me. 

Always check the quality of the turf before stepping out on the field. 



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reggin_bolas said:
My video game habit/hobby caused serious marital discord in the past. It was also a source of discord in my past relationship. I was more interested in getting achievements than socializing with my wife. I remember being in a booster party for 6 hours straight. Yeah not as bad as the Koreans but for me it was an all time low.

Video games per se don't cause these issues but they can be abused by vulnerable personalities.



I have been there. I almost lost my marriage due to similar circumstances during my first year of marriage... Thankfully I have grown up, learned a hell of a lot more and realized how lucky I am to have such a wicked wife that stayed with me during it. We have now been married for nearly 11 years and I always ensure to keep my gaming in check. BTW, the game was Starwars Galaxies Pre-CU. Good game, not worth a marriage... SMH.



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