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Forums - Politics - Gay rights...round 3

HollyGamer said:
If people can have the right on Gay Marriage, can people also have the right for Incest, animal sex, Necrophilia, or pedophilia, Polygamist? Saying no it's a little bit hypocrite isn't? Or where, or who the one who made the law, where do we determine the moral, if we becoming so civilize do we have to follow roman culture or ancient age because their lack of knowledge and science. Do we follow old culture to determine the human right. Who has the right to make the law or human right?


Incest - In some areas this is already fine (I believe New Jersey says that two 18+ consenting adults can do whatever, even if related)

Animal sex - prove that the animal is consenting.

Necrophilia - Desecrating a corpse isn't the same as two consenting adults having a relationship.

Pedophilia - Again, adult, consent, etc.

Polygamist - See my response on incest.

 

It isn't hypocritical to take individual situations and understand that they are just that, individual.  It is, however, ignorant to try to lump situations that are not the same into one category to try to take a stance against a singular situation you disagree with.



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Mr.Playstation said:

What will two mothers do when a boy grows up and he asks them " Why is something down there growing"." My friend said that he mast**** what is that?". What will these two mothers do when they have to choose if they're going to circumsize a child, which is something which will affect the child forever. What about "The Talk".

What will two men do when a girl grows up and tells them "This is my chest growing", " Why is hair growing" "Why am I bleeding down there". I don't think any man will be able to answer those question as well as a woman.

Uhm... my parents used a book with pictures.. did your dad showed his penis to you? cause thats not ok..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

Also, lmao at gay marriage having "repercussions."

What, do people seriously think that if someone couldn't get married, they'd suddenly "see the light" and fuck the opposite sex for babies? Lower birth rate? Seriously?

"Guess I can't get married. Can't spread my gayness either, since everybody knows that gay marriage is what'll make a previously straight guy/girl turn gay.

Hm...

I'll just help sustain the current birth rate instead! I'll procreate! We all know that it was gay marriage that was stopping me from having sex with a gender I had absolutely no attraction to before! That'd make me feel better about not being able to marry John! I'll marry a lady and make babies!

I mean, I could just perpetually date John, adopt a child in need, and act as if we were married until this flagrant social injustice dies out. But nah, I'll just 'ungay' myself and make proper, biologically sound babies with my best friend Juliet, who is a lesbian.

Was a lesbian."



Fun fact: Most of the bigots in this thread are Sony fans.



Mr.Playstation said:

What about breastfeeding ( Can a father breastfeed ), of course not. Sure there is bottle feeding but breastfeeding is by far the superior medium of feeding a child for the first six months.

That's not always the case, the ability to lactate after giving birth isn't universal, it depends on a lot of things, from the basic build of the woman (chest size, fat percentage, etc) to many woman are advised not to on account of various medical reasons or habbits, there are viable alternatives to breastmilk that ai development of a baby just fine.

Mr.Playstation said:

What will two mothers do when a boy grows up and he asks them " Why is something down there growing"." My friend said that he mast**** what is that?". What will these two mothers do when they have to choose if they're going to circumsize a child, which is something which will affect the child forever. What about "The Talk".

They do what any sane adult would do in that position, they consult a book, doctor or friend to educate themselves enough on the topic either before hand or where needed to give the child the answers.

Mr.Playstation said:

What will two men do when a girl grows up and tells them "This is my chest growing", " Why is hair growing" "Why am I bleeding down there". I don't think any man will be able to answer those question as well as a woman.

They do what any sane adult would do in that position, they consult a book, doctor or friend to educate themselves enough on the topic either before hand or where needed to give the child the answers.

"cant answer them as well as a woman", so the father asks a female friend, and gives the answer to the child, issue resolved.

Mr.Playstation said:

Of course these days there's the internet but I highly doubt that when a girl starts to menstruate the first thing a man will think is " let me find out what to say to the child on google"

I'm not a gay father, and I know enough about menstruation to answer any question a child could have on it, these are simply things people LEARN through life experience, it isn't some mythical encoded language only someone of the same gender as the topics applicable to can decypher, it's common understanding and knowledge that ANYONE can learn relatively easilly by actually wanting to learn in the first place.

Hell most fathers in straight relationships could answer such questions to their daughters, and most mothers the same to their sons it isn't exactly rocket science, and the kid just wants to know what's going on, they don' need a frigging pull down screen with a diagram and the inner workings laid out in detail, just reassurance that it's normal and where applicable, assistance in coping with the side effects.

Mr.Playstation said:

And these are only just a couple of example.

Theyre terrible examples.



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NiKKoM said:
Mr.Playstation said:

What will two mothers do when a boy grows up and he asks them " Why is something down there growing"." My friend said that he mast**** what is that?". What will these two mothers do when they have to choose if they're going to circumsize a child, which is something which will affect the child forever. What about "The Talk".

What will two men do when a girl grows up and tells them "This is my chest growing", " Why is hair growing" "Why am I bleeding down there". I don't think any man will be able to answer those question as well as a woman.

Uhm... my parents used a book with pictures.. did your dad showed his penis to you? cause thats not ok..


The single mom:

"Well son as you can see as I drop my pants a penis is.......wait.......fuck......well I guess you should just figure it out for yourself"



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spemanig said:
Also, lmao at gay marriage having "repercussions."

What, do people seriously think that if someone couldn't get married, they'd suddenly "see the light" and fuck the opposite sex for babies? Lower birth rate? Seriously?

"Guess I can't get married. Can't spread my gayness either, since everybody knows that gay marriage is what'll make a previously straight guy/girl turn gay.

Hm...

I'll just help sustain the current birth rate instead! I'll procreate! We all know that it was gay marriage that was stopping me from having sex with a gender I had absolutely no attraction to before! That'd make me feel better about not being able to marry John! I'll marry a lady and make babies!

I mean, I could just perpetually date John, adopt a child in need, and act as if we were married until this flagrant social injustice dies out. But nah, I'll just 'ungay' myself and make proper, biologically sound babies with my best friend Juliet, who is a lesbian.

Was a lesbian."

just dont marry and life your life... marriage is just for poor women with rich mens.



Neodegenerate said:
HollyGamer said:
If people can have the right on Gay Marriage, can people also have the right for Incest, animal sex, Necrophilia, or pedophilia, Polygamist? Saying no it's a little bit hypocrite isn't? Or where, or who the one who made the law, where do we determine the moral, if we becoming so civilize do we have to follow roman culture or ancient age because their lack of knowledge and science. Do we follow old culture to determine the human right. Who has the right to make the law or human right?


Incest - In some areas this is already fine (I believe New Jersey says that two 18+ consenting adults can do whatever, even if related)

Animal sex - prove that the animal is consenting.

Necrophilia - Desecrating a corpse isn't the same as two consenting adults having a relationship.

Pedophilia - Again, adult, consent, etc.

Polygamist - See my response on incest.

 

It isn't hypocritical to take individual situations and understand that they are just that, individual.  It is, however, ignorant to try to lump situations that are not the same into one category to try to take a stance against a singular situation you disagree with.

Yeah when we debate that Guy Mari age is also have " Bad " implication i would get banned because i know some mods in here is defending gay marriage, i refuse to accept all the reason because there is also a lot of research that Gay Marriage has also have a bad implication to human physiological and physical health for both couple and social life and people surrounding. Is all about political and defending the ideology of "Human right " , human freedom "which is have it's own flaw . I guess human don't know what is their right.



HollyGamer said:

Yeah when we debate that Guy Mari age is also have " Bad " implication i would get banned because i know some mods in here is defending gay marriage, i refuse to accept all the reason because there is also a lot of research that Gay Marriage has also have a bad implication to human physiological and physical health for both couple and social life and people surrounding. Is all about political and defending the ideology of "Human right " , human freedom "which is have it's own flaw . I guess human don't know what is their right.


How much of this research is done by an impartial group that has "no dog in the fight" and how much of it is done by the conservative religious groups in an effort to forward their own agenda?



I simply cant believe some of the replies in this thread against it....
Americans are really homophobic.

 

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