rumor: kitler53 will think E3 was amazing but disapponited to find no one else agrees because the internet demands a minimum of 12 dozen AAA announcements in order to be impressed.
What are you most excited to see at Sony's E3? | |||
Guerrilla Games New IP | 9 | 60.00% | |
Uncharted 4 | 2 | 13.33% | |
Level 5 new PS4 game | 1 | 6.67% | |
Sony Bend's New IP | 1 | 6.67% | |
Media Molecule's New IP | 1 | 6.67% | |
Project Morpheus | 0 | 0% | |
Quantic Dream new IP | 0 | 0% | |
No Man's Sky | 0 | 0% | |
The last... haha JK. GT7 | 1 | 6.67% | |
See Results | 0 | 0% | |
Total: | 15 |
rumor: kitler53 will think E3 was amazing but disapponited to find no one else agrees because the internet demands a minimum of 12 dozen AAA announcements in order to be impressed.
binary solo said:
Is this a good tactic by Nintendo? There is a reason projects head towards cancellation, and that's because there are major problems with the project. It would be rare, I think, for a game that looks for all money like it will be a major hit to head towards cancellation and oblivion for lack of investor interest. So if Nintendo is spending cash on projects that might only amount to mediocre 3rd party games to pad out the Wii U exclusive library it may end up being bad for Nintendo, in a financial sense. Not all of these almost cancelled projects are going to be underappreciated gems like Bayonetta. And of course Bayonetta was an existing IP and therefore a known quantity and thus a more predictable risk. If Nintendo can buy itself some quality 3rd party exclusive titles from the discard pile of 3rd party publishers then that will be great. But it is a risky approach. |
It's that word, right there. The Wii U is a purely exclusive and indie driven machine. With that in mind, the more good exclussives they have the better. Might as well go all in if they have to do all the heavy lifting. IMO, if the game choices are at least good (not great, but good) and different from their currently active IP, then it is a very good strategy IF (MAJOR IF) it is paired with good marketing. It's the latter that Nintendo can't seem to understand: yes, they are doing a smart thing but if they don't market the diversity and quality of their exclusives it's for nothing. I think Nintendo would do well to - where at all possible - buy a controlling interest in the franchises, not just individual entries. Devil's Third, Bayonetta, and whatever else they revive would serve them well as premanent exclussives. If you just have one entry exclusive, many fans will wait it out and grab the next entry (if there is one) when it releases elsewhere. If you own the franchise and express interest in pushing it forward, you can earn the loyalty of the fandom more easily.
Halo 5: Guardians
Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Forza Motorsport 6
Fable Legends
Phantom Dust
Assassin's Creed: Victory
Quantum Break
Scalebound
The Division
Below
Inside
Uannounced Game from Rare
Gears of War Collection
& possibly
Gears of War 4 teaser.
My money is on Microsoft.
binary solo said:
Is this a good tactic by Nintendo? There is a reason projects head towards cancellation, and that's because there are major problems with the project. It would be rare, I think, for a game that looks for all money like it will be a major hit to head towards cancellation and oblivion for lack of investor interest. So if Nintendo is spending cash on projects that might only amount to mediocre 3rd party games to pad out the Wii U exclusive library it may end up being bad for Nintendo, in a financial sense. Not all of these almost cancelled projects are going to be underappreciated gems like Bayonetta. And of course Bayonetta was an existing IP and therefore a known quantity and thus a more predictable risk. If Nintendo can buy itself some quality 3rd party exclusive titles from the discard pile of 3rd party publishers then that will be great. But it is a risky approach. |
We life in a world where the quality of a product is not the only factor taken into consideration, sales are equally if not more important.
We have seen it several times, with the recent case of Yooka-Layle being a proof of that. A game not only has to be good, but it needs to have the potential to sell several million units to get the green-light, otherwise they usually end being forgotten. That's why the mid tier games have disappeared and now the offer is mostly based on either indie or AAA games.
Look at EA last gen: Dante's Inferno sold 2 million copies, didn't get a sequel. Dead Space sold a little more than 3 million and while it got two sequels, they tweaked them so much trying to make them sell more that ended up selling worse, specially the last one (which still sold 2 million copies). Nothing else has been said about it.
With that in mind, and giving Nintendo a little confidence, I think that those are the kind of games they are going for, games with the potential to sell 1.5-2.5 million copies (had they been multiplatform), that nowadays no one wants to publish.
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LordLichtenstein said: Halo 5: Guardians |
Why would that be a great show? Given leaks and strong rumours, Rare's game would be the only new announcement.
celador said:
Why would that be a great show? GIven leaks and strong rumours, Rare's game would be the only new announcement. |
"Why would that be a great show?" You are joking right? ..
LordLichtenstein said:
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No. Like I said, this is the biggest event on the calender, and MS only have one other conference in the year, compared to Sony who have an extra two, and Nintendo who have semi-regular Directs. And all they bring is two new games, one of which we already know? Don't see why that would be impressive.
celador said:
No. Like I said, this is the biggest event on the calender, and MS only have one other conference in the year, compared to Sony who have an extra two, and Nintendo who have semi-regular Directs. And all they bring is two new games, one of which we already know? Don't see why that would be impressive. |
Because a press conference is all about announcing new games and not showing off gameplay of already announced games.
Halo 5: Guardians - gameplay
Scalebound - gameplay
Rise of the Tomb Raider - gameplay
Assassin's Creed: Victory - gameplay
Nope, not impressive.
I am willing to bet, that Sony won't show off nearly as many AAA games as Microsoft.
LordLichtenstein said:
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Gameplay is great to see, but won't make a great press conference alone. You need new announcements at the biggest conference of the year, and not just one or two as you are suggesting. Nintendo last year for instane had five or six.
Agree with the last line though. Being way behind in sales and only needing to fill two conferences puts MS in a better position to show off more games and 'win' E3.
Hopefully we will see some of the games that have been announced for some time but have not been seen since.
Mirror's Edge 2 & Cyberpunk 2077 I would really like to see more of. Cyberpunk may be too soon after The Witcher 3 though, which is a shame.