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Forums - Gaming - Killing Floor 2 Will Ban Racist, Sexist, and Other Abusive Players

nuckles87 said:

Well, it's already a pretty common practice to ban idiots who break the rules on message boards and other online communities, so I don't really see how this is a problem. I mean, technically, this sort of behavior on Xbox Live has been cause for ban for years. It's just not well-enforced.

Of course, I guess the gamer gaters and free speech warriors will take needless offense to this like this is some kind of new concept.

 

As for potential abuse, I doubt anyone is going to be outright banned based on one complaint from a single player. It's much more likely that it will take constant reporting from multiple players about a single person before that happens.

Thank you. People will still find offense in this and will find a way to defend the racists, sexists, etc... all in the name of the fight against political correctness.



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This is why i play only single player, too much bs and drama with MP games from mods and community.



RolStoppable said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't a multiplayer game require multiple players?


Hey, I know plenty of people who game online who aren't dicks. XD Really, in most of the games I've played on Xbox Live, people don't even talk, and outright dicks/griefers/whatever are pretty rare.

Xbox Live has a report system where players can be reported for saying offensive and vulgar things online (in addition to being persistent quitters/cheaters). The most persistent issue I've run into on the service has been people quitting when a game starts because they didn't get the game mode they wanted (and I would, of course, report them). I've encountered maybe a handful of assholes, and I've reported them too. Most of the negative complaints against me seem to stem from a few accidental team killings and a few dropped connections being confused with quitting.

So not only is this system already in place on a major service anyway (one that has online-only games), but it's not exactly known for being abused. If anything, it's known for being ineffective.

Given that this is something for an individual game server than an entire service, I would imagine it might be more effective here. Guess we'll see.



This is why i play offline multiplayers/Co-op with my friends in living room.



I'm not a troll, and I'm not one to stand up for that kind of shit, but revoking keys you paid for is precisely the fear that every person who's invested in digital content has had, for years. I really, really like Killing Floor, and I really want this game, but this policy should SCREAM caution, to everyone.  And, in fact, this is precisely the reason I resisted doing any business through steam for a very long time (electing for physical where applicable).  Who's to say you and a group of friends aren't just saying heinous shit to each other (which DOES happen), and someone overhears it?  Where exactly is the line drawn?

The resistance of Steam, Microsoft, Sony, Activision, EA etc.. to give players ACTUAL server control, and robust voice controls, across all platforms is absolutely ridiculous. And the lack of instant, real-time oversight directly contributes to the feeling of untouchable power some anonymous people have online.



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mornelithe said:

I'm not a troll, and I'm not one to stand up for that kind of shit, but revoking keys you paid for is precisely the fear that every person who's invested in digital content has had, for years. I really, really like Killing Floor, and I really want this game, but this policy should SCREAM caution, to everyone.  And, in fact, this is precisely the reason I resisted doing any business through steam for a very long time (electing for physical where applicable).  Who's to say you and a group of friends aren't just saying heinous shit to each other (which DOES happen), and someone overhears it?  Where exactly is the line drawn?

The resistance of Steam, Microsoft, Sony, Activision, EA etc.. to give players ACTUAL server control, and robust voice controls, across all platforms is absolutely ridiculous. And the lack of instant, real-time oversight directly contributes to the feeling of untouchable power some anonymous people have online.


Well, here's what the developers actually said about the policy (which the OP cut out when he posted the news for some reason):

"It's there so that, if at some point in the future, some individual gets utterly out of control and is being abusive to enough thousands of people to come to our attention - we can actually take action," Tripwire said.

So unless your friends are actively abusing thousands of players, I'm not sure you have much to worry about. And again, this has existed as a part of online only games for a very long time.

One thing about your post has me curious though: what do you mean by active, real-time oversight?



nuckles87 said:
mornelithe said:

I'm not a troll, and I'm not one to stand up for that kind of shit, but revoking keys you paid for is precisely the fear that every person who's invested in digital content has had, for years. I really, really like Killing Floor, and I really want this game, but this policy should SCREAM caution, to everyone.  And, in fact, this is precisely the reason I resisted doing any business through steam for a very long time (electing for physical where applicable).  Who's to say you and a group of friends aren't just saying heinous shit to each other (which DOES happen), and someone overhears it?  Where exactly is the line drawn?

The resistance of Steam, Microsoft, Sony, Activision, EA etc.. to give players ACTUAL server control, and robust voice controls, across all platforms is absolutely ridiculous. And the lack of instant, real-time oversight directly contributes to the feeling of untouchable power some anonymous people have online.


Well, here's what the developers actually said about the policy (which the OP cut out when he posted the news for some reason):

"It's there so that, if at some point in the future, some individual gets utterly out of control and is being abusive to enough thousands of people to come to our attention - we can actually take action," Tripwire said.

So unless your friends are actively abusing thousands of players, I'm not sure you have much to worry about. And again, this has existed as a part of online only games for a very long time.

One thing about your post has me curious though: what do you mean by active, real-time oversight?

It doesn't matter, I don't like the policy, and I'll never be ok with them revoking access to software you purchased when there are numerous other ways they can deal with it.  As I said, it makes them the moral arbitor, and they can't even police their servers effectively as it is.



Are you okay with them revoking access to people who cheat or otherwise disrupt the game?

And again, what did you mean by active, real-time oversight? How would that work?



I don't see much of an issue with it, if you don't be a dick to others then you've got nothing to be afraid of, if someone reports you and you've clearly done nothing wrong then you point it out to them and have the person who filed the fake report banned and his key taken away from him.

People need to learn the hard way throughout life, I feel this is the enxt step, if you want people to grow thicker skin so you can carry on your way of life being a douche then you are the one who eneds the harder lesson, you either adhere to the rule or youpay the price.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Good. I don't play online too hear DAT kind of talk.