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FloatingWaffles on 19 March 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
FloatingWaffles said:

A Playstation fan would like to think of PS as a stronger brand because it's their favorite, same as how an Xbox fan or Nintendo fan would like to think of their brand as stronger because that's their favorite. That is why it's a matter of preference, and more of an opinion.

Also, your points about how PS is the most known worldwide and all of that would be the same thing as me saying Nintendo is the strongest brand. They are more known than anyone and have the most well known IPs in the gaming industry than anyone else. But you see, that would be my opinion, not fact. Just like everything else, it's just an opinion. 

If Sony wasnt a dominant and influential brand Microsoft would not be in the console space right now. Its pretty much a fact that Sony has dominated the console space since joining and their only major competition has been Microsoft.

They didn't dominate last generation. Or does last generation not count now all of a sudden. Also this is once again the same thing as me saying that Nintendo saving gaming all the way back then Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be in the console space right now.



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ReimTime on 19 March 2015
rolltide101x said:
FloatingWaffles said:

I don't think you got my point. Obviously favorite brand is an opinion, but i'm saying anyone could easily say "[Name] company is the stronger brand because [reason here]" even though the only reason they say that is because it's their personal favorite. The reason Apple would be considered a stronger brand is because it's more well-known, but in this case none of them are more well known than the other.

So the brand that has consistently sold better is not the stronger brand?

Toyota is not a stronger brand than Mazda?

I loved my Mazda and my Toyota but Toyota consistenly out sells Mazda so it is considered to be the "stronger brand"

 

You are talking about "favorite brands" not "stronger brands" those are two totally different things


Stronger can mean higher sales/recognition/spread. Not necessarily who makes the better products, whih is subjective anyway



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ReimTime on 19 March 2015

Actually I have no idea what's going on here so I'm going to quietly back out of this thread



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S.T.A.G.E. on 19 March 2015
rolltide101x said:
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I understand your logic. Personally, I'm all in this gen. Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One for me. I'll make a PC if I have time. A high end PC would save me money on multiplats. I would just make sure to prep it so I wont have to upgrade it for a long time.

PC gaming is not as expensive as most people try to act like it is (though it is more expensive than console gaming). But it is totally worth it for games that do not come to console (Civilization 5 :) lol) 

Yeah, personally with my coming schedule I don't think I will be able to have the time any longer for games like that. Even Dragon Age was a stretch for me this gen (and I loved the game). Console games provide me with the challenge and the rush that I need on a busy schedule, but now I'll be more conscious of what I am buying. I just graduated from college and and am entering the workforce again so and right now my opportunities are looking bright, which means my hours of freedom are being cut by the day. I wish it was like the old days though where I bought a PC for exclusives, but I will pretty much only use the PC for multiplats if I make one. Your point is definitely noted though. Very good point. A PC can over  a peroid of time be build into a monster while on a budget. It doesn't need to be built in a day. 



S.T.A.G.E. on 19 March 2015
FloatingWaffles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

If Sony wasnt a dominant and influential brand Microsoft would not be in the console space right now. Its pretty much a fact that Sony has dominated the console space since joining and their only major competition has been Microsoft.

They didn't dominate last generation. Or does last generation not count now all of a sudden. Also this is once again the same thing as me saying that Nintendo saving gaming all the way back then Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be in the console space right now.

You're proving my point. Read what I wrote and then read what you wrote again and think about it. Microsoft threatened their domination, but it took sacrificing the integrity of the 360. This is why I stated Microsoft is Sonys main competition. They understood why Sony was so dominant and basically turned themselves into a carbon copy of Sony with better online. Only problem is that they cannot duplicate their policies and first party.

As for Nintendo, Nintendo did bring gaming back from a hard place back in the day, but Sony turned it into a bigger phenomenon than it was. It also was open to a wider demographic because of Sony. Sony joined the gaming industry because Nintendo screwed them over and Microsoft joined because Sony refused to partner with them.



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FloatingWaffles on 19 March 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
FloatingWaffles said:

They didn't dominate last generation. Or does last generation not count now all of a sudden. Also this is once again the same thing as me saying that Nintendo saving gaming all the way back then Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be in the console space right now.

You're proving my point. Read what I wrote and then read what you wrote again and think about it. 

As for Nintendo, Nintendo did bring gaming back from a hard place back in the day, but Sony turned it into a bigger phenomenon than it was. It also was open to a wider demographic because of Sony.


You said, and I quote, "Its pretty much a fact that Sony has dominated the console space since joining".

But that's wrong because they didn't dominate last generation.  So how am I proving your point?



Aerys on 19 March 2015

Much more variety, games for every one including japan games, much better futur with a lot more exclusives coming only on PS4, better first party support

And then there is the hardware



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

rolltide101x on 19 March 2015
FloatingWaffles said:
rolltide101x said:

So the brand that has consistently sold better is not the stronger brand?

Toyota is not a stronger brand than Mazda?

I loved my Mazda and my Toyota but Toyota consistenly out sells Mazda so it is considered to be the "stronger brand"


If you want to use that logic, then I guess that means Nintendo is the stronger brand because they dominated with the Wii last generation. 

Toyota has CONSISTENTLY outsold Mazda. Toyota is the stronger brand

Playstation has CONSISTENTLY outsold Xbox. It is the stronger brand.

The PS2 sold more than every Xbox put together.....



S.T.A.G.E. on 19 March 2015
FloatingWaffles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You're proving my point. Read what I wrote and then read what you wrote again and think about it. 

As for Nintendo, Nintendo did bring gaming back from a hard place back in the day, but Sony turned it into a bigger phenomenon than it was. It also was open to a wider demographic because of Sony.


You said, and I quote, "Its pretty much a fact that Sony has dominated the console space since joining".

But that's wrong because they didn't dominate last generation.  So how am I proving your point?

Because I conceded that despite Sony's dominance, Microsoft is their main competition. They are doing what they set out to accomplish in the console space, which is detering Sony and expanding their empire into the console gaming realm since Sony exposed the living room to multimedia. They understand Sony's dominance which is why they are so cautious. They've managed to turn themselves into becoming the Pepsi to Sony's Coke.



vivster on 19 March 2015

Nope, you're wrong. It's the price. PS4 is only winning because it is so cheap.



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