Little update to NX threads, it'll be my late Christmas present to you NX speculators: Starting January 1st and Ending January 31st if less than 2 NX threads are posted outside of this thread -starting February 1st you guys can make NX threads again (however at a much less frequent amount compared to how they used to come out, aka spamming all the hot topics with "wut colr do u thunk NX will b?" or "iz the NX alredy da best system evr made before we kno anything abt it?!?")

If Nintendo has managed to create a wifi signal capable of do that, they would make more money selling the tech for computers and smartphones than with the NX platform.

I'm not going to say that they can't do it, but I find it hard to believe.

As for the NX home console, I could see Nintendo going for a more traditional (no screen) controller with the option to use the NX handheld as an extra controller. Basically what Sony did with PSVita and Remote Play, only that Nintendo has the tech to do it properly as the Wii U Gamepad proves.

Reveal:
leaks around March, first infos and name at E3 in June, then more leaks and full reveal at E3 2017 with a release end of 2017.

Launch games:
- 3D Mario
- 3D Metroid

Launch window:
- Zelda U remastered
- Splatoon 2
- Pikmin 4 remastered

No clue what 3rd party will bring to the table, probably a lot of late inferior ports of 2016 games, EA sports 2015 games called 2017 and lots of low risk games.
I have a feeling that Square-enix might really put in some effort with the NX, but western devs won't until it's sold a lot.

Nintendo will advertise mainly on kids channels like they do today and will continue to be family friendly. Teens will continue to abandon Nintendo because they are sooo grown up, and 30+ will be more willing to buy it, because the "need to prove I'm a grown up phase" is over and they don't feel insecure playing a Nintendo product.

Shibata will raunch the console in Europe, and people pray mulchiprayer games.

Also, mods will still be unable to spell and NX threads will still be forbidden.

Given the current situation, I don't think Nintendo can reveal the NX in 2016 and launch it in 2017. If they reveal it in 2016, they have to launch it that year. Unless they want to see how their sales plummet.

GDC would be a good place to reveal the console prior to E3, but with Nintendo's reduced presence this year, I doubt they'll do it. A full reveal at E3 is more likely.

Launch games would be

-3D Mario (3D World launched in 2013, so they have had time to work on a new game)
-Pikmin 4
-New "social" game that makes use of Miis.

Also, since they can't use a Zelda demo to showcase the graphic capabilities of the new machine because of Zelda U, they will show a trailer of a new, and proper, Metroid game to showcase what the new machine can do.

I need to know why you think this? Zelda WiiU/NX has a much better chance of being a launch title then a game that isn't even confirmed :/

I don't know enough about streaming technology to know if it's possible (today) or not, and the only wired solutions I can come up with aren't very sensible, so I'll just be very impressed if Nintendo actually manages to pull it off, and not surprised if they don't.

About the controller, if Nintendo doesn't bundle a controller with a screen with the NX I doubt many games will support it for anything but remote play if at all.
Even if they use their next handheld as a controller I doubt it would evolve in its usefulness.

I think the gamepad is great for inventory and maps. I wouldn't want to see that usefulness die, so I hope they'll stick to the second screen concept and evolve it. Give it a capacitive touch screen with multi-touch, make a new Mario Paint with a good stylus added in the package and improve the battery life.

It would be interesting to see if Nintendo can compete without a gimmick, though.

I'm just skeptical of seeing the NX launch 2016, thats why the remaster and not the release with the Wii U version 2016, they'll need time to polish it some more for the NX.
Nintendo has usually announced a console at E3 and then revealed it next E3, not saying it's not possible Nintendo would release the console 2016, I just think they won't be ready by the end of 2016.
And if the NX launches in 2017 Metroid NX would have had ideally 4 years of development time, if Retro is making it, and this is wishful thinking on my part . Metroid is skipping the Wii U entirely, what better way is there to mend those broken Metroid fan hearts? (and I want my Metroid fix as soon as possible! )

The Gamepad was useful in some aspects, but it failed to attract users and, in the end, has become more of a problem than an asset. Because of that and because it's possible that NX won't be backwards compatible with Wii and Wii U games, Nintendo could use it was an oportunity to go back to a more traditional controller. Besides, didn't they say that they would focus on their tradicional customers? That points more towards a traditional console experience than what the Wii and Wii U offered.

But if they do include a screen on its controller, they need to make it right. The Gamepad is too bulky, the NX controller needs to be smaller and more compact, even if that means using a smaller screen.

I like the GamePad in games like Splatoon and Mario Maker, but outside of that there isn't much of an use for it. :/

Depends on who they define as their traditional customers. I understood the quotes from Miyamoto, of wanting to move away from casual gamers towards the core gamer, to be a "no more Wii Fit" kinda thing and not a "more challenge and old school gaming" thing. They still see kids as their main target group, and their consoles as toys, so most games tend to be pretty easy for seasoned players.

But you're probably right. As a traditional Nintendo gamer, being with Nintendo since the NES (only skipped Wii & DS), I'd probably also take a console with a traditional controller without the extra screen. Traditional Nintendo gamers are there for the Nintendo IP, so they'll probably come as long as Nintendo doesn't screw their IPs up.

But I'd prefer to have a controller with a screen, because I think there are still many things that could be improved or done with a (or multiple) second screen controller(s) with more capable hardware.
As you said, Nintendo would have to fix the issues some people had, like making the controller more comfortable (smaller), improving battery life, adding analog shoulder buttons and making the screen more responsive.

But if they toss the second screen I know I'll miss:
-browsing or typing on the Gamepad
-starting games/apps (while watching TV and switching over once I see the Wii U is ready)
-the good uses of the gamepad in games (tension in ZombiU, Inventory and hacking mini game in Deus Ex, level creation in Mario Maker, jumping to players in Splatoon, Inventory and Map in Windwaker HD, interactive Map in Xenoblade X)
-playing virtual console games while listening to the TV (Music, News, waiting for a specific show)

I fear without the Gamepad Nintendo will probably throw in some other gimmick, to differentiate themselves from Sony and Microsoft, that will alienate them from the competitors customers, and gain nothing from it.